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Old 12-21-2020, 06:46 PM
 
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I often hear Christians refer to being "saved", or that Jesus is their saviour, having been sent by his father to save them.

My question is exactly from whom and from what are they being saved from. Also what is Jesus doing that his father couldn't manage himself.
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Old 12-21-2020, 06:59 PM
 
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I often hear Christians refer to being "saved", or that Jesus is their saviour, having been sent by his father to save them.

My question is exactly from whom and from what are they being saved from. Also what is Jesus doing that his father couldn't manage himself.
Saved from a permanent separation of our species from God. Jesus brought the PERFECT agape love of God (Holy Spirit) to His human consciousness connecting all human consciousness permanently with God's consciousness.
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Old 12-21-2020, 07:08 PM
 
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Saved from a permanent separation of our species from God. Jesus brought the PERFECT agape love of God (Holy Spirit) to His human consciousness connecting all human consciousness permanently with God's consciousness.
humans have never been separated from God. God dwells within us. that's what the soul or spirit of a human is. the piece of God that dwells within us.

easy peasy.
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Old 12-21-2020, 07:32 PM
 
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Believers are saved from the coming wrath of God (see the book of Revelation), saved from condemnation (John 3), saved from Hell (Jude 1).

https://www.gotquestions.org/wrath-of-God.html

Jesus is the 2nd person of God, literally God in flesh (John 1).

https://www.gotquestions.org/God-in-the-flesh.html
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Old 12-21-2020, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I often hear Christians refer to being "saved", or that Jesus is their saviour, having been sent by his father to save them.

My question is exactly from whom and from what are they being saved from. Also what is Jesus doing that his father couldn't manage himself.
It's the stick of hell-threat that keeps the sheep docile and in their pen.

Heaven is the carrot dangled in front of them to help them bear the threat of the stick and boredom of the pen.

Genius, really, if you think about it.

E$pecially when con$idering the potential benefit$ for the religiou$ leader$.

If you catch my oh-$o-$ubtle drift.
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Old 12-21-2020, 08:58 PM
 
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Saved from a permanent separation of our species from God. Jesus brought the PERFECT agape love of God (Holy Spirit) to His human consciousness connecting all human consciousness permanently with God's consciousness.
Seeing a sample of your God's love in the form of Covid, I'll take a bit more separation between us - like a million universes.
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Old 12-21-2020, 09:00 PM
 
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Believers are saved from the coming wrath of God (see the book of Revelation), saved from condemnation (John 3), saved from Hell (Jude 1).

https://www.gotquestions.org/wrath-of-God.html

Jesus is the 2nd person of God, literally God in flesh (John 1).

https://www.gotquestions.org/God-in-the-flesh.html
Who is the bogeyman that would send mankind, or men, to such a fate, and why? Sounds like a pervert to me, whoever he or she is.
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Old 12-21-2020, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Seeing a sample of your God's love in the form of Covid, I'll take a bit more separation between us - like a million universes.
I quite agree.
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Old 12-22-2020, 01:10 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Interesting to see a number of people Interpreting Christianity differently. But the old cartoon says it best

"Saved from what I'm going to do to you if you don't let me in".
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Old 12-22-2020, 04:34 AM
 
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Seeing a sample of your God's love in the form of Covid, I'll take a bit more separation between us - like a million universes.
God can't love and only stop covid as fast as man is willing to try and stop it?
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