So it begins (America, prophecy, quote, marriages)
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The door was opened when marriage in Canada was re-defined.
Now that two men and two woman can be joined in unholy matrimony, the polygamists of Canada are now sueing for equal time...More women the marrier......
The door was opened when marriage in Canada was re-defined.
Now that two men and two woman can be joined in unholy matrimony, the polygamists of Canada are now sueing for equal time...More women the marrier......
Actually you are incorrect, and I think you know it. Blackmore and Oler are attempting to use Canada's gay marriage laws as a defence...They are not suing. Polygamy is not lawful in Canada and carries a penalty of five years maximum.
Daphne Gilbert, a law professor at the University of Ottawa, said the argument promised by Mr. Blackmore's lawyer is predictable but without merit. The monogamous aspects of formal same-sex relationships are "actually in keeping with our view on marriage," Prof. Gilbert said.
Polygamy, on the other hand, has a completely different dynamic, she said.
globeandmail.com: Defence to invoke gay marriage as polygamy trial begins in B.C. (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20090121.POLYGAMY21/TPStory/National - broken link)
The door was opened when marriage in Canada was re-defined.
Now that two men and two woman can be joined in unholy matrimony, the polygamists of Canada are now sueing for equal time...More women the marrier......
So? Who cares if three loving adults (or more) want to be married? Or two women or two men? How exactly does that make YOUR marriage fail? Oh, that's right -- it doesn't. So why should you care what they do in their own home any more than they give a crap what you do in yours?
You call yourself 'freedom' but you don't live it.
People do exhibit a kneejerk reaction to polygamy when you really cannot find a victim. It is a religiously-motivated prohibition that does not hold up to scrutiny. Absolutely no one is harmed by two men/women marrying or any numerical combination thereof.
People do exhibit a kneejerk reaction to polygamy when you really cannot find a victim. It is a religiously-motivated prohibition that does not hold up to scrutiny. Absolutely no one is harmed by two men/women marrying or any numerical combination thereof.
Even though it's a lifestyle I couldn't stomach for myself, as long as they're all consenting adults, why should we care?
I'm fine with what consenting adults want to do but I do have a concern if there's children involved because these communities are often secretive and are actively involving their children into accepting this lifestyle. As a result we've seen young teenage girls being married to much older men and I see this as the worst kind of abuse. If this arrangement is going to be legalized for adults there needs to be some protection for their children and I'm not sure how that could be accomplished.
I'm fine with what consenting adults want to do but I do have a concern if there's children involved because these communities are often secretive and are actively involving their children into accepting this lifestyle. As a result we've seen young teenage girls being married to much older men and I see this as the worst kind of abuse. If this arrangement is going to be legalized for adults there needs to be some protection for their children and I'm not sure how that could be accomplished.
Why would it require any rules beyond what are in place for marriage right now? Young girls are not integral or necessary for polygamy, are they?
Why would it require any rules beyond what are in place for marriage right now? Young girls are not integral or necessary for polygamy, are they?
I'm somewhat familiar with how these groups operate having lived in Arizona for a few years. You may also recall the case in Texas not too long ago when officials who investigated the large polygamist community there determined that a high percentage of young teenage girls had been sexually active with older men. What happens is that the men are really in control of what is going on in these groups and the young women who have been isolated from the influences of the outside world are coerced into marrying men at least twice their age. If it was just the adults I wouldn't be concerned but these marriages generally have a large number of children. There have been a number of young women who have run away from these groups and told their stories to investigators. It's a legitimate concern.
I'm somewhat familiar with how these groups operate having lived in Arizona for a few years. You may also recall the case in Texas not too long ago when officials who investigated the large polygamist community there determined that a high percentage of young teenage girls had been sexually active with older men. What happens is that the men are really in control of what is going on in these groups and the young women who have been isolated from the influences of the outside world are coerced into marrying men at least twice their age. If it was just the adults I wouldn't be concerned but these marriages generally have a large number of children. There have been a number of young women who have run away from these groups and told their stories to investigators. It's a legitimate concern.
Are you saying that legalizing polygamist marriages would expand these abuses? I don't see how. The legal status of polygamy right now does not seem to be keeping men from committing these abuses. Whatever these men are guilty of, it is not abusing a legal marriage contract between consenting adults. What I'm saying is, even if polygamist marriages were legalized, it would still be illegal to have sex with an underage girl. The marriage is not the crime.
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