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Paul was always angry because his pupils were not learning at all, when they should have been teachers, they were babies.
Hebrews.
Warning against Drifting Away 11Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing. 12For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 13For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 14But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
The idea is not simply to believe but that you study like there is no tomorrow.
Christ slowly being formed in a person, not all who claim to be born again are born again. Christ isn't suddenly formed in everyone who claims they believe.
My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, 20I desire to be present with you now, and to change my voice; for I stand in doubt of you.
In my world, love brings the best rewards. What reward are you hoping for, Hannibal? (Translate it from bible code to normal speech, please. )
Love does not bring reward, just because people believe in Jesus doesn't mean that much. The first disciples went out in a fever to obtain a better resurrection because they knew the facts of resurrection and how everyone will not be the same.
Love alone puts you in the outer court of weeping and gnashing of teeth because people see and know what they missed out on just because they did not seek the knowledge of Christ or give anything up for Christ. Following Christ is not an easy task even if many claim it is, it is not.
Love does not bring reward, just because people believe in Jesus doesn't mean that much. The first disciples went out in a fever to obtain a better resurrection because they knew the facts of resurrection and how everyone will not be the same.
Love alone puts you in the outer court of weeping and gnashing of teeth because people see and know what they missed out on just because they did not seek the knowledge of Christ or give anything up for Christ. Following Christ is not an easy task even if many claim it is, it is not.
Well, I'm not claiming that believing in Jesus benefits anyone. If I thought it did, I would believe in him. And you do know that when I talk about love bringing reward, I'm not talking about loving Jesus, right? (Unless that's important to you, then by all means, love him.)
I'm sorry if in your experience, love has not brought reward. It has in mine. As far as knowledge, if you're a Christian, then I guess you're aware that your bible says that those who love, know God.
Paul was always angry because his pupils were not learning at all, when they should have been teachers, they were babies.
Hebrews.
Warning against Drifting Away 11Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing. 12For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 13For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 14But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
The idea is not simply to believe but that you study like there is no tomorrow.
Christ slowly being formed in a person, not all who claim to be born again are born again. Christ isn't suddenly formed in everyone who claims they believe.
My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, 20I desire to be present with you now, and to change my voice; for I stand in doubt of you.
If "Christ is formed" in anyone, I highly doubt it came through studying a book. If the very nature of God is love, then being conformed to that nature is what matters. The best a book can do is point that out.
If "Christ is formed" in anyone, I highly doubt it came through studying a book. If the very nature of God is love, then being conformed to that nature is what matters. The best a book can do is point that out.
Well, I'm not claiming that believing in Jesus benefits anyone. If I thought it did, I would believe in him. And you do know that when I talk about love bringing reward, I'm not talking about loving Jesus, right? (Unless that's important to you, then by all means, love him.)
I'm sorry if in your experience, love has not brought reward. It has in mine. As far as knowledge, if you're a Christian, then I guess you're aware that your bible says that those who love, know God.
There is nothing wrong with just believing in Jesus and having your salvation, you have your salvation and it benefits you to believe in Jesus.
AGAIN, Salvation alone is salvation, and the reward I speak about is after you die.
The difference between salvation and reward is shown in very many places, not everyone is the same, there is salvation and there are those who have salvation and reward.
1 Corinthians 3
Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Saved, but only as one who does through a fire, the people who obtained reward will not burn and die in the flames.
If "Christ is formed" in anyone, I highly doubt it came through studying a book. If the very nature of God is love, then being conformed to that nature is what matters. The best a book can do is point that out.
Actions always speak louder than what you say you believe, but you have to study to learn what actions you must take. I could tell everyone what they should do, but none would believe me unless they learned it themselves.
Actions always speak louder than what you say you believe, but you have to study to learn what actions you must take. I could tell everyone what they should do, but none would believe me unless they learned it themselves.
I would agree with that, to a degree. For instance, when I became a parent, I read a lot of parenting books. I studied. A lot. But there was a ton of conflicting ideas in all those books. As it turned out, I found the best thing to study was not books, but my kids. My little living epistles taught me so much more than any book could about how to love them There aren't hard and fast rules to follow, in my experience.
Saved, but only as one who does through a fire, the people who obtained reward will not burn and die in the flames.
Did you ever tell me what specific rewards you are seeking? I don't recall if you did, sorry. Is it just the reward of not being "burned"? And what does being burned mean to you in plain speak?
Haha, thanks. I told them I could do some editing work at home on Monday if they want. The three people in the room looked at one another and then back at me. I said, "WHAT?" They said, "We can't ask you to work on Shabbos or a Jewish holiday or festival day. We can't even say it's ok if you want to work. "
I said, "OK, then I might DECIDE to work on Monday."
What?...No Shabbos goy?...
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There aren't hard and fast rules to follow, in my experience.
