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Old 03-31-2009, 09:11 PM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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that I don't believe in your god? You should be happy. You have your faith in what you believe to be true and are living the way you'd want to live. Why aren't you satisfied with that? Why is it that if you believe it, everybody else has to believe it too?


This isn't for everybody, just the ones who feel it's their obligation to "preach the gospel", convert people, or try to persuade people to come to their church.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:19 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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that I don't believe in your god? You should be happy. You have your faith in what you believe to be true and are living the way you'd want to live. Why aren't you satisfied with that? Why is it that if you believe it, everybody else has to believe it too?


This isn't for everybody, just the ones who feel it's their obligation to "preach the gospel", convert people, or try to persuade people to come to their church.
We are happy but it breaks our hearts because we believe if you're not saved, asking Jesus to be your Savior you will spend eternity in hell and we don't want anyone to do that.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:23 PM
 
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We are happy but it breaks our hearts because we believe if you're not saved, asking Jesus to be your Savior you will spend eternity in hell and we don't want anyone to do that.
You know. This is one of the beliefs that makes people dislike Christianity. It's just pure intolerance.

Even if Jesus is our savior. Why would he be so cruel to send everyone to hell who doesnt believe in him?

That sounds more like something that Adolph Hitler would do.

Shall I wave out an outstretched hand and yell Hail Jesus!?

Seriously.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:27 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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You know. This is one of the beliefs that makes people dislike Christianity. It's just pure intolerance.

Even if Jesus is our savior. Why would he be so cruel to send everyone to hell who doesnt believe in him?

That sounds more like something that Adolph Hitler would do.
Jesus sends no one to hell, people send themselves there by making the choice to reject Jesus.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:29 PM
 
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Jesus sends no one to hell, people send themselves there by making the choice to reject Jesus.
Ok.

Aside from the scriptures. Can you explain at all WHY and HOW this happens in detail? What is the logic behind this? Who exactly sends people to hell? Who's the judge? Let's here all the details.

Let's put it out on the table here.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:34 PM
 
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Ok.

Aside from the scriptures. Can you explain at all WHY and HOW this happens in detail? What is the logic behind this? Who exactly sends people to hell? Who's the judge? Let's here all the details.

Let's put it out on the table here.
Without scriptures, you just have the worldly thoughts, what I believe is based on what the Bible, God's Word says. Read the book of John if you want the WHY, HOW, and WHO.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Pensacola, Fl
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We are happy but it breaks our hearts because we believe if you're not saved, asking Jesus to be your Savior you will spend eternity in hell and we don't want anyone to do that.
You can't be sent to hell if you don't believe in it. This is one of the prime reasons I get so agitated with bible thumpers and proselytizers. We athiest and agnostics are satisfied in our lack of belief and we don't go out on the roads and thump the FSM to convert people to athiesm or agnosticism (anti-theist are in another category though). We don't hand out little cards depicting the FSM and telling people to come to our Sunday morning services and wednesday night meetings. We don't doom everybody to the underworld if they don't believe as we believe and we keep to ourselves. Religious peoples (and christians to be exact)? Well...there just a whole different story. I can't tell you how many Jesus cards I've gotten while I'm working, how many times I've been preached at, how many times I've been damned to hell, and etc., etc., etc. You're happy with your God and that is absolutely fine by me. But please, don't try to force your happiness (and God) on me. I'm plenty happy without it.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:41 PM
 
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Without scriptures, you just have the worldly thoughts, what I believe is based on what the Bible, God's Word says. Read the book of John if you want the WHY, HOW, and WHO.
Well just explain it. If this is something you believe, surely you can at least paraphrase what the Bible says? Or just tell it in your own words?

I can never understand why people will not speak from their own hearts on their religious beliefs, and instead turn to the book constantly. Your beliefs are in your heart, so speak from the heart.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:44 PM
 
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You can't be sent to hell if you don't believe in it. This is one of the prime reasons I get so agitated with bible thumpers and proselytizers. We athiest and agnostics are satisfied in our lack of belief and we don't go out on the roads and thump the FSM to convert people to athiesm or agnosticism (anti-theist are in another category though). We don't hand out little cards depicting the FSM and telling people to come to our Sunday morning services and wednesday night meetings. We don't doom everybody to the underworld if they don't believe as we believe and we keep to ourselves. Religious peoples (and christians to be exact)? Well...there just a whole different story. I can't tell you how many Jesus cards I've gotten while I'm working, how many times I've been preached at, how many times I've been damned to hell, and etc., etc., etc. You're happy with your God and that is absolutely fine by me. But please, don't try to force your happiness (and God) on me. I'm plenty happy without it.
I can't force you or anyone to believe, only the Holy Spirit can do that. I just say what I believe and why. And what is in store for unbelievers when they die according to the Bible makes me sad.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:46 PM
 
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I can't force you or anyone to believe, only the Holy Spirit can do that. I just say what I believe and why. And what is in store for unbelievers when they die according to the Bible makes me sad.
Perhaps Muhammad is the true prophet and you will go to hell for not believing in him? Don't Muslems preach this?
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