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Old 10-15-2009, 06:28 AM
 
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What happened to the discussion of scientists who believe in God?

The list includes some of the world's greatest minds, like Isaac Newton, Nicholas Copernicus, Johannes Kepler, and even Albert Einstein.
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:51 AM
 
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What happened to the discussion of scientists who believe in God?

The list includes some of the world's greatest minds, like Isaac Newton, Nicholas Copernicus, Johannes Kepler, and even Albert Einstein.
Einstein was Atheist, as are the majority of modern scientists. Copernicus work for the Catholic Church, I personally question if he was religious or just did what he had to do to avoid being killed by the church.
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:53 AM
 
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What happened to the discussion of scientists who believe in God?

The list includes some of the world's greatest minds, like Isaac Newton, Nicholas Copernicus, Johannes Kepler, and even Albert Einstein.
Was Albert Einstein Religious? | Was Einstein Jewish, Christian, a Theist, a Deist, an Agnostic or an Atheist? | Clockbackward Essays
Einstein’s attitudes toward religion illustrate how cautious we must be when claiming that we understand another person’s opinion. Beliefs are sometimes complex, subtle, vague, or ambiguously articulated, and of course they can change dramatically with time. In this case, it is only after reading a great many quotes that we get a good feeling for what Einstein truly believed. By incautiously or unscrupulously quoting Einstein without proper context, as many have done before, we could easily have made him sound like a Jew, Christian, Atheist, Agnostic, Theist or Pantheist, but none of these labels seems to fully capture the subtlety of his thoughts. Oh yeah, and by the way, when Einstein said:
“When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute–and it’s longer than an hour. That’s relativity.”
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:42 AM
 
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I am sure when Richard Dawkins is gone you will search for an obscure statement and list him as a closet Christian also. I read quotes from Jefferson, Adams, Lincoln, Washington, Einstein, and many others trying to give a view of their take on religion and in some cases Christianity. I think religion will turn the letters and statements upside down to fine another statement hidden in the statement. It is like playing music backwards to hear a message from Satan. It is just incomprehensible how you interpret their direct statements.
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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What happened to the discussion of scientists who believe in God?

The list includes some of the world's greatest minds, like Isaac Newton, Nicholas Copernicus, Johannes Kepler, and even Albert Einstein.
I won't debatethe beliefs of these men, but I know that they were not all believers
Well if this is a numbers game you lose.....How about taking a leap into science in this century....What do you think the ratio of scientists that believe vs those that don't is today?....I love how you fundies have to reach way back in the history books to when it was almost a crime to disbelieve to cherry pick your examples...

News flash....This is the twenty first century and things have changed.
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:00 AM
 
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Not sure if it was mentioned but Isaac Newton and Charles Darwin believed in god.

Newton was fascinated by alchemy and believed the bible held a secret code that gave the date for the end of the world (2060, get ready )

Darwin was Unitarian; he belived god still created everything and was in control of of the evolutionary process.
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:09 AM
 
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Not sure if it was mentioned but Isaac Newton and Charles Darwin believed in god.

Newton was fascinated by alchemy and believed the bible held a secret code that gave the date for the end of the world (2060, get ready )

Darwin was Unitarian; he belived god still created everything and was in control of of the evolutionary process.
From what I have read on him, Darwin denounced the bible and in the end did not believe in a God.
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:48 AM
 
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Scientific dogma is that science is always right and when the science is wrong...well...things must be re-worded so that, you guessed it, the science was right all along.
You ever stopped to consider that you're really just your own special brand of fundy?
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:56 AM
 
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Not sure if it was mentioned but Isaac Newton and Charles Darwin believed in god.

Newton was fascinated by alchemy and believed the bible held a secret code that gave the date for the end of the world (2060, get ready )

Darwin was Unitarian; he belived god still created everything and was in control of of the evolutionary process.
You know this how?

Historian Stephen D. Snobelen says of Newton, "Isaac Newton was a heretic. But ... he never made a public declaration of his private faith — which the orthodox would have deemed extremely radical. He hid his faith so well that scholars are still unravelling his personal beliefs.

"I think that generally ... an agnostic would be the most correct description of my state of mind.”....Charles Darwin
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Old 10-15-2009, 10:00 AM
 
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You know this how?

Historian Stephen D. Snobelen says of Newton, "Isaac Newton was a heretic. But ... he never made a public declaration of his private faith — which the orthodox would have deemed extremely radical. He hid his faith so well that scholars are still unravelling his personal beliefs.

"I think that generally ... an agnostic would be the most correct description of my state of mind.”....Charles Darwin
Newton's stuff is all over the internet. Here's a good site w/info.

Isaac Newton Theology, Prophecy, Science and Religion

Darwin's religious status was brought up in a college anthropology class of mine a few years back.
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