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Old 02-08-2010, 09:04 AM
 
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Isn't it fun to think that anything would actually need to be "towed" in space?
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Old 10-19-2021, 09:29 PM
 
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It would take a pretty big UFO tow truck to move such a large object and where would they find an extra moon anyway, would it be broken down on a highway somewhere? I think the most common belief among scientists is that our moon was caused by a collision with a massive object that struck the earth early in it's history and gravity gradually pulled all of the debris together and shaped it into a sphere. I've seen documentaries that discuss this possibility and some have speculated that the earth may have been in a molten state at this early stage of it's existence. This seems to make the most sense to me.
And humans evolved from monkeys and only been on earth 30,000 years. Never mind the dates on the sumarian kings tablet. Or what we have around us now that's on an 3,600 year cycle
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Old 10-19-2021, 10:09 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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And humans evolved from monkeys and only been on earth 30,000 years. Never mind the dates on the sumarian kings tablet. Or what we have around us now that's on an 3,600 year cycle
Humans evolved, but not from monkeys. Monkeys and the great apes to which man belongs evolved from a common ancestor. The modern form of man has been on the earth for some 200,000 years.
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Old 10-20-2021, 07:55 AM
 
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explain why the moon doesn't rotate like the other moons and explain why its too big for its orbit? that fact alone proves the moon didn't evolve with the earth.
“ The moon orbits the Earth once every 27.322 days. It also takes approximately 27 days for the moon to rotate once on its axis. As a result, the moon does not seem to be spinning but appears to observers from Earth to be keeping almost perfectly still. Scientists call this synchronous rotation.” - https://www.space.com/24871-does-the-moon-rotate.html


Good heavens, where did you obtain your education?...
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Old 10-21-2021, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Do you really think ET's had nothing better to do than tow moons into planetary orbit on a random solar system billions of years ago? If so, they were busy buggers, considering there are 172 of them in the solar system.

All the planets are made of material "recycled" from other places in the galaxy. But the moon is not geologically active, so it's rocks haven't been worn down and reconstituted over and over again like on Earth. It's completely logical that we would get older readings from moon rocks than earth rocks for this reason.

And while the Apollo UFO sightings are among the most credible I've think, I doubt the UFOs were trying to "scare" them away from the moon.
So funny, like a joke thread.

UFO's lol, c'mon.
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Old 10-21-2021, 05:59 AM
 
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I take the bible literally. God did what he said he did and the way he descibes it in his book. So by God's word, he created the Earth and the Sun, moon and stars after this!
You really need to beeak it down because Moses wrote it in such a way that its impossible to be taken as literal, Moses went out of his way to prove it was a spiritual story, not an actual one.


Break it down.



In the 24 hours between Adam and Eve, God had Adam tilling the garden so freaking long that they consideted him to be bored and needing a help mate.

But before God could kill Adam, he had Adam name every living thing, and you couldnt even get through the birds in 5 years.


That same 24 hour day, Adam had tilled and harvested so many harvests as to see a need for a helper.

You understand how tilling, seeding, and harvesting works?


You till and till and then you seed, and then you wait upon the rains, and then you weed out your garden careing for it until it brings in a harvest, it certainly does not happen over night.



But lets say by some bizzarro world that you squeeze decades of naming birds and all living things, and harvesting so long to get bored to where God finally looked down on your plight to give you a woman all in 24 hours, THEN WHAT HAPPENS?


After Adam did all that fine work of LOL, NAMING ALL LIFE, havung harvested for centuries,now it happens that God must kill Adam to open up his chest to extract a rib to MAGICALLY BY FAIRIES FORM A RIB INTO A WOMAN.


After all this, God heals Adam and look, only 24 hours have passed.


Again, Moses was no dummy, he told that story in the full knowledge that any reasonable man could not possibly take it as a literal story.
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Old 10-21-2021, 06:43 AM
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant-impact_hypothesis
The giant-impact hypothesis, sometimes called the Big Splash, or the Theia Impact, suggests that the Moon formed from the ejecta of a collision between the proto-Earth and a Mars-sized planet, approximately 4.5 billion years ago, in the Hadean eon (about 20 to 100 million years after the Solar System coalesced). The colliding body is sometimes called Theia, from the name of the mythical Greek Titan who was the mother of Selene, the goddess of the Moon. Analysis of lunar rocks, published in a 2016 report, suggests that the impact may have been a direct hit, causing a thorough mixing of both parent bodies.
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It's not proven, but it does help explain why the Moon is steadily moving away. If you run time backwards, the Moon coincides with the Earth.
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Old 10-21-2021, 07:06 AM
 
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that still doesn't explain how scientists claim the moon is older than the solar system


"How Old is the Solar System?"

"4.6 billion years old."

https://www.universetoday.com/15575/...-solar-system/



"How Old is the Moon?"

"4.4 billion years old."


The moon is about 85 million years younger than we thought, new study finds

"Scientists looked to the moon's mineral composition to estimate that the moon is around 4.425 billion years old, or 85 million years younger than what previous studies had proven. That's around the time Earth's core settled, the researchers said."


https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/16/world...rnd/index.html
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Old 10-26-2021, 10:04 AM
 
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regardless of the causes of the moon existence , eventually it was created by Allah
also the night and the day
And He it is Who created the night and the day,
and the sun and the moon.
They float, each in an orbit.
The Holy Quran 21.33
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Old 10-29-2021, 03:44 PM
 
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I think the most common belief among scientists is that our moon was caused by a collision with a massive object that struck the earth early in it's history and gravity gradually pulled all of the debris together and shaped it into a sphere. I've seen documentaries that discuss this possibility and some have speculated that the earth may have been in a molten state at this early stage of it's existence. This seems to make the most sense to me.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant-impact_hypothesis: : : : : : : : : :
It's not proven, but it does help explain why the Moon is steadily moving away. If you run time backwards, the Moon coincides with the Earth.
Knowledgeable people do not cite Pukipedia.

You might want to read the papers of the Moon Working Group for the Astronomical Union, because the moron who is clueless that wrote the Puki article didn't.

To bring everyone up to speed.....

There were three theories for the Moon's existence:

1) Pinch Theory
2) Capture Theory
3) Coalescence Theory

All three theories were put to the test using the Cray Super II in 1976.

All three theories failed the test.

The problems with the Pinch Theory are numerous:

1) It is absurd to even suggest that Earth's axial rotation would be fast enough to cause a molten blob of Earth to be hurled into Space at a speed fast enough to achieve escape velocity, which is 22,000 MPH.

2) Newtonian Laws state that this molten blob that got pinched off from Earth would continue traveling at whatever speed it was until acted upon by another force, and since there is no force that would immediately affect it, it would have continued in motion in whatever direction it was moving and so there wouldn't even be a Moon.

3) There is no possible explanation or theory as to why this pinched off molten blob would not be in the Plane of the Ecliptic. At the very least the Moon should be in the same plane as Earth, but it isn't.

There are a number of other issues, but I'd hope you get the point.

The capture theory failed, because either the Moon collided with Earth, or it sailed on by without being captured.

The coalescence theory also failed due to issues related to the conservation of angular momentum, and the Moon's location on the Plane of the Ecliptic.

Fast forward 20 years....

In 1996, using Cray's new incarnation Big Red -- the rival to IBM's Big Blue -- the Moon Working Group had another go at it:

1) Ejecta Theory -- this is the Pinch Theory cloaked with a different stench.
2) Capture Theory
3) Co-accretion Theory -- it is now accepted that celestial bodies co-accrete rather than coalesce

Big Red buried the Ejecta/Pinch Theory once and for all. In every simulation, the ejecta fell back to Earth or continue traveling out into Space leaving nothing orbiting Earth.

Capture Theory: Big Red was able to do something the Super II couldn't do and that was factor in the alignment of the planets. Remember that gravity is a force, and all forces are vectors. Big Red took the existing coordinates of all the planets and minor bodies and then stepped backward in time at one second intervals all the way back to 4.6 Billion years ago showing the relationship between the planets and minor bodies to Earth and the Moon.

Again, the Moon either collide with Earth or sailed on by.

Coalescence Theory: Big Red came up with an interesting conclusion. Remember that the main issue is the conservation of angular momentum. Big Red said, yes, Moon and Earth could have coalesced at the same time, but only if Earth's mass were 18%-24% greater than it is now.

So.....where is the rest of Earth?

Like many, I believe the evidence shows the Moon and Bigger Earth co-accreted in the Asteroid Belt, and that this collision shunted Earth and Moon to Earth's present orbit.

The debris of that collision formed the Asteroid Belt.

You need only review Bode's Law or Kepler's Laws or any of the laws of celestial mechanics to know that Earth doesn't belong here.
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