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Old 03-02-2010, 09:23 AM
 
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I don't. It isn't what you call it that matters . . . it is the implicit denial that it is God and its use as an ALTERNATIVE. It is NOT . . . but the implication is that it is a scientific alternative to God when you say it is ONLY "Natural" or just "natural" processes. That is flying under the false flag of atheism by default AS IF it is scientific.
"I don't care what you call it, it's just that when you don't call it God you aggravate me."
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:30 AM
 
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And in one fell swoop, you dismiss everything you've ever said about religion, faith, and god. You just said, by your own words, that your opinion is irrelevant.
To anyone BUT ME . . . it IS!! That is true for ALL opinions.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:31 AM
 
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To anyone BUT ME . . . it IS!! That is true for ALL opinions.

If all religion is merely opinion, the existence and nature of god is merely opinion, why do you care if people have different opinions than you?
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:31 AM
 
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"I don't care what you call it, it's just that when you don't call it God you aggravate me."
Did you read the post or just react to it? It is the implication the you spread deliberately under the false flag of atheism as default that is unconscionable when you know full well that it is NOT scientific.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:34 AM
 
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Did you read the post or just react to it? It is the implication the you spread deliberately under the false flag of atheism as default that is unconscionable when you know full well that it is NOT scientific.

That's just your opinion.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:37 AM
 
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If all religion is merely opinion, the existence and nature of god is merely opinion, why do you care if people have different opinions than you?
I don't . . . but when OPINION masquerades as science . . . THEN I get offended. Science is science and opinion is opinion and they should NEVER be conflated . . . especially when propagated to the general public as science.

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Old 03-02-2010, 09:38 AM
 
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That's just your opinion.
No that is fact . . . otherwise show me the SCIENTIFIC validation of it.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:52 AM
 
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Atheism doesn't have to be scientific; however, it is the only belief that is philosophically consistent. When it comes to court cases, UFO sightings, etc, people want empirical evidence. Atheists take it a step forward and say the same applies to religion and superstitions as well.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:59 AM
 
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Did you read the post or just react to it? It is the implication the you spread deliberately under the false flag of atheism as default that is unconscionable when you know full well that it is NOT scientific.
Dodging the semantics problem again, eh?

Yes, I read your post:
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I don't. It isn't what you call it that matters . . . it is the implicit denial that it is God and its use as an ALTERNATIVE. It is NOT . . .
You just refuted your own denial. But you go on:
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but the implication is that it is a scientific alternative to God when you say it is ONLY "Natural" or just "natural" processes. That is flying under the false flag of atheism by default AS IF it is scientific.
In order for "God" to be anything that matters, it has to be defined. How do you define it? Like this: "God = nature". Ok, atheists agree that nature exists. SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?!

It still seems like you are bent out of shape over semantics, since you claim that the "properties of God" are irrelevant as long as we all agree that "everything is God". So it seems that you just want to give a nickname to the universe and everything.

Yet I think there's more. The underlying problem, I think, is that you are upset that atheists don't see any reason to believe that the universe is conscious.
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:00 AM
 
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Atheism doesn't have to be scientific; however, it is the only belief that is philosophically consistent. When it comes to court cases, UFO sightings, etc, people want empirical evidence. Atheists take it a step forward and say the same applies to religion and superstitions as well.
No . . . they take it beyond religion and superstition to unscientific rejection of the undeniable . . . that we and all existence are products of an inscrutable God (however we choose to define or describe Him).
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