Muslims refuse to drive cabs advertising "Gay Games" (atheist, Rastafarian)
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Apparently this isn't a problem. One wonders what would happen if it were a bunch of Christians that did the same. Would they be called homophobes? Would they be allowed to refuse?
After all....if a Christian baker refuses to bake a cake for a gay couple....he's shut down. Why the double standard?
Apparently this isn't a problem. One wonders what would happen if it were a bunch of Christians that did the same. Would they be called homophobes? Would they be allowed to refuse?
After all....if a Christian baker refuses to bake a cake for a gay couple....he's shut down. Why the double standard?
There is no double standard.
If you actually bothered to read the article, you'd see the cabbies in question were not refusing to pick people up. Therefore, unlike the Christian baker, they are not guilty of denying anyone service. They are simply choosing to stay home rather than drive cabs with Gay Games logos on them. Are they homophobic bigots? You bet. But they aren't practicing discrimination. What they are doing is stupid, but not illegal.
Apparently this isn't a problem. One wonders what would happen if it were a bunch of Christians that did the same. Would they be called homophobes? Would they be allowed to refuse?
After all....if a Christian baker refuses to bake a cake for a gay couple....he's shut down. Why the double standard?
Muslims and Christians that are bigoted against gays can refuse their bosses' mandates and face the consequences for it. But gay cab drivers should be allowed something like not picking up heterosexuals, atheist cab drivers should not be allowed to deny Christians a ride, and thus Muslim and Christians (the small/large sections that would be so bigoted) should not be allowed to refuse atheists nor gays nor eachother.
For the ad thing the employers or companies and chose to do as they fit, I think. They can remove the ads or remove the bigoted drivers.
Regardless there is nothing in either religion that says concretely "thy should be allowed to break equality laws," or "thy should not treat gay people with the same dignity and respect afforded to others." Regardless again, the Rastafarians are denied their wishes, because their religion is not a get-out-of-jail free card that allows them to break laws that apply to everyone.
I'm not sure how the copious "religious-exception" (religious privilege) laws for war, vaccines, etc apply to that.
Apparently this isn't a problem. One wonders what would happen if it were a bunch of Christians that did the same. Would they be called homophobes? Would they be allowed to refuse?
After all....if a Christian baker refuses to bake a cake for a gay couple....he's shut down. Why the double standard?
In refusing to drive a cab based on advertisements, no one is the object of discrimination. No service is being denied to a targeted member of a protected class. So, the comparison to a baker refusing to serve gay customers is completely nonsensical. So, too, is the rather absurd idea that Colorado or Oregon state laws (which are what compelled bakers in Colorado and Oregon, respectively, to serve gay customers) have any jurisdiction in Cleveland. Breaking news - different states have different laws. And sadly, there is no law in Ohio preventing commercial discrimination against gays by private businesses.
Are the Muslims in question intolerant bigots? Absolutely. But you're proof that in itself that is no crime.
So, next time you might think before you complain that it's a double standard when one state enforces a law that it has on its books, and another state doesn't enforce such a law because it has no such statute on its books.
Now, if you want to see what happens when Muslim cab drivers try and actually refuse service based on their religion, this was precisely what happened a few years ago in the Twin Cities involving cab drivers serving customers at MSP, the largest airport in the Midwest after O'Hare. The majority of said cab drivers were and are Muslim. The issue was that numerous cab drivers were refusing to serve customers with dogs (including service dogs, such as guide dogs) and customers with alcohol (not at all an unusual item being carried by someone returning from a vacation in wine country, most foreign countries, or just a stop at an airport shop on the way down a terminal).
Their excuses? The usual - religious justifications for their discrimination.
Commissioners at one of the country's biggest airports are considering punishing Muslim cab drivers who refuse service to passengers possessing alcohol or guide dogs.
The cabbies claim transporting those items violates Islamic law.
"It is against our faith and the airport is discriminating against Muslim drivers," says a cab driver who would only give his first name, Hashim.
"This is discrimination," proclaimed Ahmed Shine, a taxi driver for seven years.
Abdifatah Abdi, who said he was speaking for an association of cabdrivers, said the commissioners "will be judged on your decision. "You are deciding the livelihood of 600 drivers and their families," Abdi said. "Say no to discrimination. Say yes to justice for the weak."
So what happened in that case, where service was actually refused to customers?
Muslim cab drivers at Minnesota's biggest airport will face new penalties including a two-year revocation of their taxi permits if they refuse to give rides to travelers carrying liquor or accompanied by dogs, the board overseeing operations ruled Monday.
The Metropolitan Airports Commission, responding to complaints about the liquor issue, voted unanimously to impose the new penalties beginning in May.
A large number of taxi drivers in the area of the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport are Muslim Somali immigrants. Many say they feel the faith's ban on alcohol consumption includes transporting anyone carrying it. Some also have refused to transport dogs, both pets and guide dogs, saying they are unclean.
People deep down know God, and thus hold Christians to a higher standard. That's why they can easily dismiss, or as demonstrated by this thread, make excuses for bigotry in other religions.
People deep down know God, and thus hold Christians to a higher standard. That's why they can easily dismiss, or as demonstrated by this thread, make excuses for bigotry in other religions.
What? I think you are making this "Christian special persecution" thing up. Their employers can do as they see fit with advertising. The cab drivers should not have that freedom with public services though, such as was talked about Muslims denying the blind or pro-liquor crowd.
Yes, such "Muslims" are homophobes, and yes, they are allowed to refuse to drive a car with an advertisement they don't like and then face their employer's consequences for it.
People deep down know God, and thus hold Christians to a higher standard. That's why they can easily dismiss, or as demonstrated by this thread, make excuses for bigotry in other religions.
You can't make this stuff up, folks.
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