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So what we need to do to become "saved" is to reverse the process... and we need to do something that will clean off the dark encrustments. And this process can be done by two different ways... either purifying our natural love, which is by asking our Heavenly Father for forgiveness and going through a very long transformation of spiritual development... or we can ask our Heavenly Father to purify our souls with His Divine Love, which is a faster transformation of soul development.
Oh, well, that's great then! I can say the sinners prayer and then I can ask god to purify my soul with his love...He can't deny me that and therefor I go to heaven. You are the one that said either works.
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Originally Posted by Sir Les
Well What did Jesus say...Not what you say!...or what they say.
"those who do the will of the father, shall enter paradise"
So the opposite is = those who don't won't!!!
So, interestingly enough, if I had 2 months left and I say the sinners prayer and I ask for forgiveness and then I go out into the world for 2 months and lived in god and helped others, then I would get into heaven? I was doing the will of the father though, so I have to be let in!
That is the key to the kingdom...Sinlessness!..the other key is to do what God said...
Sorry to have to report that no one is sinless. I guess no one is going to heaven then.
So if you live a life full of sin...and never turn to God, knowing you sin...at the very end ...if you repent..well that is only one step towards God..who has turned away, because you denied him...you have to take the next step...and prove the repented heart by the Act of DOING...and because you did not do...the paradise you seek was not made for you!...cause you did not make it with your belief, faith, action, or in your heart, in doing or fulfilling for God.
The 2 months theory applies to the above. In the end I get in. But seriously, I thought that god says in the bible something about how he never turns his back from us. And even when we don't believe in him he is there with us (Footsteps). Now all of a sudden he turns his back, but he said he would never do that! Fickle isn't he?
So how can you share in something, you spent your whole life denying was there.?
I saw the true light? Like I said, god "says", it is NEVER to late to be saved and enter into the kingdom of heaven.
And you never put yourself out...for God...to do what God says....why would God put himself out for you...if you aided in the Earths destruction and did nothing to aid the people, or help stop the madness?
When presented with signs, and warnings...?
god was supposed to put himself out for me because he so loved me and the world.
Why would God suddenly let in a sinner who has not been tested by the act of doing some fulfilling, or by the puritfication by the fire?
Or the baptismal to clean away the sin...so you can do the act of doing the service sinlessly in the flesh before being taken up as worthy enough?...God will judge your heart...but you still have to do what God says!
Wow, I would be going through an awful lot of baptismal then. I could get Baptized tomorrow and two hours later gossip about someone and then what? I have to get another baptism to clear away the sins again? And if you say I only have to do it once then why can't I do it once at the end of my life?
You can, but you won't get to spend eternity in as a good a neighborhood in Heaven as you would if you'd been saved earlier in life.
As depicted, the last place I would want to spend eternity is heaven, gold streets, the never ending harp music, nothing to do, no good books, no good movies, all the interesting and fun people are missing, no purpose, no accomplishments, no failure, no struggles, no victories, no dogs............. forever and ever and ever................. Maybe that is the concept behind the phrase "bored to death"
As depicted, the last place I would want to spend eternity is heaven, gold streets, the never ending harp music, nothing to do, no good books, no good movies, all the interesting and fun people are missing, no purpose, no accomplishments, no failure, no struggles, no victories, no dogs............. forever and ever and ever................. Maybe that is the concept behind the phrase "bored to death"
Sounds like hell to me
No disrespect but you sound very moronic right about now.
As depicted, the last place I would want to spend eternity is heaven, gold streets, the never ending harp music, nothing to do, no good books, no good movies, all the interesting and fun people are missing, no purpose, no accomplishments, no failure, no struggles, no victories, no dogs............. forever and ever and ever................. Maybe that is the concept behind the phrase "bored to death"
Sounds like hell to me
Would you like to spend eternity with someone you love deeply? That's what heaven will be for believers.
Originally Posted by SoCalAngel2009 Being "saved" is a process (snip)
So what we need to do to become "saved" is to reverse the process... and we need to do something that will clean off the dark encrustments. And this process can be done by two different ways... either purifying our natural love, which is by asking our Heavenly Father for forgiveness and going through a very long transformation of spiritual development... or we can ask our Heavenly Father to purify our souls with His Divine Love, which is a faster transformation of soul development.
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Oh, well, that's great then! I can say the sinners prayer and then I can ask god to purify my soul with his love...He can't deny me that and therefor I go to heaven. You are the one that said either works.
You're not getting it. The sinner's prayer doesn't work. There is no wave of the magic wand and suddenly someone is saved.
When people pass over into the next world, then they'll know and understand what I posted... unless they get a epiphany before then.
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An eternity of harp music......
