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Old 06-14-2007, 04:21 PM
 
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...than Catholic books in the bible?

I feel like this question might have been asked before, but I can't find it. It's been referenced a few times. Can anybody help me out here?
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:29 PM
 
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...than Catholic books in the bible?

I feel like this question might have been asked before, but I can't find it. It's been referenced a few times. Can anybody help me out here?
Certain books called the apocrypha were not included because Protestants did not believe that these books had the same "weight" and inspiration as the other books of the Bible.
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:30 PM
 
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Thanks kaykay.
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:46 PM
 
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...than Catholic books in the bible?

I feel like this question might have been asked before, but I can't find it. It's been referenced a few times. Can anybody help me out here?
During the Protestant Reformation, some reformers cut out books of the Bible that contradicted some of the reformers' beliefs.

In fact, some of the early Reformers wanted to cut out even more books. Martin Luther wanted to chop out the epistle of St. James, and he had strong reservations about the epistles of John.
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Old 06-14-2007, 07:26 PM
 
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During the Protestant Reformation, some reformers cut out books of the Bible that contradicted some of the reformers' beliefs.

In fact, some of the early Reformers wanted to cut out even more books. Martin Luther wanted to chop out the epistle of St. James, and he had strong reservations about the epistles of John.
Not exactly...the books were added...

Hebrew Bible (24 books)



The Law

Genesis

Exodus

Leviticus

Numbers

Deuteronomy



The Prophets

Joshua

Judges

Samuel

Kings

Isaiah

Jeremiah

Ezekiel

The 12 Minor Prophets



The Writings

Psalms

Proverbs

Job

Song of Solomon

Ruth

Lamentations

Ecclesiastes

Esther

Daniel

Ezra-Nehemiah

Chronicles

Roman Catholic Bible (46 books)



The Law

Genesis

Exodus

Leviticus

Numbers

Deuteronomy



History

Joshua

Judges

Ruth

1 and 2 Samuel

1 and 2 Kings

3 and 4 Kings (Chron)

Ezra

Nehemiah

*Tobit

*Judith

Esther

*1 Maccabees

*2 Maccabees



Poetry/Wisdom

Job

Psalms

Proverbs

Ecclesiastes

Song of Solomon

*Wisdom of Solomon

*Ecclesiastieus

(Sirach)



Prophecy

Isiah

Jeremiah

Lamentations

*Baruch

Ezekiel

Daniel

Hosea

Joel

Amos

Obadiah

Jonah

Micah

Nahum

Habakkuk

Zephaniah

Haggai

Zechariah

Malachi

Protestant Bible (39 books)



The Law

Genesis

Exodus

Leviticus

Numbers

Deuteronomy



The Writings

Psalms

Proverbs

Job

Song of Solomon

Ruth

Lamentations

Ecclesiastes

Esther

Daniel

Ezra-Nehemiah

Chronicles



Poetry/Wisdom

Job

Psalms

Proverbs

Ecclesiastes

Song of Solomon



Prophecy

Isaiah

Jeremiah

Lamentations

Ezekiel

Daniel

Hosea

Joel

Amos

Obadiah

Jonah

Micah

Nahum

Habakkuk

Zephaniah

Haggai

Zechariah

Malachi.


MBG
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Old 06-14-2007, 10:21 PM
 
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This is the historical timeline of the Bible:

1000-50 BC: The Old Testament books are written.

200 BC: Rabbis translate the OT from Hebrew to Greek, a translation called the "Septuagint" (abbreviation: "LXX"). The LXX ultimately includes 46 books.

AD 30-100: Christians use the LXX as their scriptures.

AD 90: Jewish rabbis meet at the Council of Javneh and decide to include in their canon only 39 books, since only these can be found in Hebrew. This "officially" separates Jewish Scripture from Christian Scripture.

AD 400: Jerome translates the Bible from Hebrew and Greek into Latin (called the "Vulgate").

AD 1536: Luther translates the Bible from Hebrew and Greek into German. Initially, his version is exactly the same as the Catholic Bible. Later, he decides that, since Jews wrote the Old Testament, theirs is the correct canon; he puts the extra 7 books in an appendix that he calls the "Apocrypha." and comments that they are "useful". Luther also wanted to eliminate, or at least put in his Apocrypha several New Testament books - the books of Jude, Hebrews, James, and Revelations, but his fellow Protestant Reformers are appalled, and these are put back in by other Protestant reformers.

AD 1546: The Catholic Council of Trent, in response to the changes in the Bible by the Protestant Reformers, re-affirms the canonicity of all 46 books.

Whether people accept this or deny this, it doesn't change the fact that it is historically accurate.
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Old 06-15-2007, 11:11 AM
 
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Whether people accept this or deny this, it doesn't change the fact that it is historically accurate.
What she said.

Good summary, beth ann. Thanks bunches.
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Old 06-15-2007, 12:12 PM
 
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So, does this mean that I'm missing part of the Bible? Or that the Jewish is missing part of the Bible? Help?!
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Old 06-15-2007, 12:14 PM
 
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So, does this mean that I'm missing part of the Bible? Or that the Jewish is missing part of the Bible? Help?!
If you have a Protestant Bible, then it is 7 books short of the Bible accepted by all Christians for over a thousand years.
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Old 06-15-2007, 12:19 PM
 
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If you have a Protestant Bible, then it is 7 books short of the Bible accepted by all Christians for over a thousand years.
Not true...the Catholic church added books to the OT cannon... I posted the books up there
^^^ The ECFs did not agree on the Apocrypha that is why the prots do not have them, they were considered extra books by many of the ECFs., being that they could not be agreed upon they were left out.
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