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"I suppose it's a mix. The washer has visible staining and the dryer is a no-name, and they're the first impressions guests will have of my home. But also, poor washers/dryers cost time. Specifically, suppose I replaced the small, aging, top-loader with a good-sized, modern, front-loader. I would be able to wash more laundry per load in less time per load. In addition, I would have more cleaning options such as 'I need it in 30 min do what you can' and 'This sorta has an odor please do a bit more.' beyond the basic 'cold / warm / hot' that a basic appliance offers."
I see those ten words are going to haunt me awhile.
I've owned nice appliances and a nice home for years. Whether or not it matters to my guests, it's embarassing and annoying to me, besides the other ninety words on functional issues.
Last edited by likesAppliances; 01-30-2011 at 09:19 PM..
"I suppose it's a mix. The washer has visible staining and the dryer is a no-name, and they're the first impressions guests will have of my home. But also, poor washers/dryers cost time. Specifically, suppose I replaced the small, aging, top-loader with a good-sized, modern, front-loader. I would be able to wash more laundry per load in less time per load. In addition, I would have more cleaning options such as 'I need it in 30 min do what you can' and 'This sorta has an odor please do a bit more.' beyond the basic 'cold / warm / hot' that a basic appliance offers."
I see those ten words are going to haunt me awhile.
I've owned nice appliances and a nice home for years. Whether or not it matters to my guests, it's embarassing and annoying to me, besides the other ninety words on functional issues.
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$3,500 is market dependent. In NYC or Malibu that won't get you much. The OP needs to look at what else is available in the market to get a better idea of what to expect at the price point.
8 years is not a long time for replacement of appliances. 10-15 is more likely. But I can understand that they may be showing their age. However obviously at this price/market point they appear to be becoming an issue the LL may want to note if it is costing rentals to good tenants.
This is a good reason to own a multiple range of properties, you can move used appliances into older units and replace at the higher end.
A set of semi-quality higher end SS appliances, say "LP" will cost around $5-8,000 (refer, range micro, w/d, dishwasher) depending on how fancy. The LL may not want or be in a position to finance that until the old appliances have finished their service life. You also have to remember tenants are very hard on appliances and LL's hesitate to put anything into them.
My recommendation to the OP who seems to be a person of refined taste, is to buy your own appliances and store the LL's if you don't want to use them. Keeping in mind that it will cost someone to store and move them. This way you will have appliances that you personally love to use and enjoy.
Also, I do agree with the OP that friends are not going to be impressed by your appliances (well in some circles they are) but your appliances in some ways are a statement about who you are, just like your car. If you drive a POS car people do not respect you.
I understand the OP's request. I have a $3,500 price point in the San Diego market and for that I expect an upper mid-floor high rise 2 bedroom condo with upgraded SS appliances in immaculate condition, marble and granite everything.
I also own low income apartments that start at $395.00 - for that they get unbroken windows with screens, locks on the doors, whatever appliances I happen to have on hand and well worn but clean carpet.
While I agree to a very minor extant that appliance quality increases with higher rent it is really only in regards to competition. When I rented out nice livable three bedroom houses for $2200 they might have newer appliances than a place that was in a better location and had a garage for $2500. If I needed to replace the appliances and I could get some SS stuff at the Sears outlet or a "package deal" on low end GE or Fridigaire I would get that, but unless COMPETITVE apartments were also raising rents I could not really more.
I also had a bad expericne with tenants rough cleaning methods leaving the SS appliances looking worse that the typical porcelain finish stuff that I got. When comes to laundry equipment my philosophy was always SIMPLER IS BETTER and 99% of all renters are perfectly happy with a laundry pair that is reliable.
If you look at the very highest end of rentals these tenants send everything out to the dry cleaners and get shirts returned in boxes so theynare ready to go into their luggage for business travel...
If there are rentals available with ultra luxury appliances go rent them and when your landlord is forced to upgrade or remain vacant he will cross that bridge...
> If you look at the very highest end of rentals these tenants send everything out to the dry cleaners and get shirts returned in boxes so theynare ready to go into their luggage for business travel...
I send my dryclean-only clothes to a drycleaner. I'm not aware of anyone who sends their workout clothes to a drycleaner. Luxury apartments in my area feature 'send away' services but alas multi-million dollar homes don't have this feature.
> If there are rentals available with ultra luxury appliances go rent them and
> when your landlord is forced to upgrade or remain vacant he will cross that
> bridge...
Landlords don't get to set all of the terms, unless they want to reduce the rent or pay for an idle property. I simply stated my case, he agreed I could replace the appliances, and we're both happy.
There unfortunately weren't many rentals to choose from and my timeline for move-in was very accelerated.
I don't quite understand: is there actually something wrong with the appliances' functionality, or is the problem that they aren't new and brand name?
That's what I'm wondering; if the appliances work, there's no reason to replace them.
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Specifically, suppose I replaced the small, aging, top-loader with a good-sized, modern, front-loader. I would be able to wash more laundry per load in less time per load. In addition, I would have more cleaning options such as 'I need it in 30 min do what you can' and 'This sorta has an odor please do a bit more.' beyond the basic 'cold / warm / hot' that a basic appliance offers.
The landlord is under no obligation to save you any time and effort in doing your laundry; nor is the landlord under any obligation to impress your guests with a fancy dryer.
That's what I'm wondering; if the appliances work, there's no reason to replace them.
The landlord is under no obligation to save you any time and effort in doing your laundry; nor is the landlord under any obligation to impress your guests with a fancy dryer.
The landlord is under no obligation to save you any time and effort in doing your laundry; nor is the landlord under any obligation to impress your guests with a fancy dryer.
And I was under no obligation to rent his place. Money talks and landlords have to listen if they want top dollar.
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The landlord is under no obligation to save you any time and effort in doing your laundry; nor is the landlord under any obligation to impress your guests with a fancy dryer.
