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Old 03-08-2011, 02:33 PM
 
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Hello all,


I have some concerns about my Landlord that I would like some advice on.

My wife and I rent a small house in Los Angeles that sits on the front of my Landlord's property. My Lease is with him and his wife. Part of the rental agreement is my up keep of the property when they are gone, which is most of the time. They are retired and on the surface entirely respectable members of the community.

Associated with the property is my Landlord's son and one of his friends. His son has had a sketchy past involving dealing drugs and shooting pornography out of the house we are living in. The price we are paying is fair based up the idea that I am taking care of the property.

My Landlord is not a conventional man and the longer we have stayed here the more concerned I am about his nature. His is a chronic drug user as is his son, and there have been a number of conspicuous incidents during our time here. The incidents have escalated and I'm now concerned for the safety of my wife, our dog and myself.

The problem I face is that all the targeting behavior has been aimed at me without any tangible proof that it ever even happened (Moving items in the house and then moving them back. Putting my truck in neutral when I left it in reverse. Loosening the wheel bolts on my motorcycle. Erasing hard drives on laptops with my own degaussing gun.)

Everything that has taken place can be explained as natural phenomenon, but when I'm in close quarters with either the father or the son, they will as much admit to doing these things.

So, the end result is that if I tell anyone, it starts to erode my credibility. I have one friend who went through the same problem with an ex-associate consistently picking the lock to his home and tampering with his belongings - it eventually lead to this individual doing a stretch in jail. But my wife and her family don't believe me when I tell them, so I'm now in a position where I don't tell them.

I'm not entirely sure what the motivating factor is for this behavior. And it is possible that it is entirely being manifest by the son and his associates alone. The son has a shady past and is prone to aggressive behavior. And the son and his friend are avid gun owners and use gun ownership as a constant implied threat.

I would like to move, but because my wife has not been the target for any of these incidents, she does not see any reason to move.

I can install security counter measures, but we don't have a great deal of money right now.


Any advice would be much appreciated.
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Old 03-08-2011, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Do you have a lease, and if so, when is it up?
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Old 03-08-2011, 04:10 PM
 
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Not a lot you can do with just a suspicion. You cant legally break your lease based on a suspicion just like the LL can't evict you based on suspicion. get evidence and go from there.
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Old 03-08-2011, 05:29 PM
 
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Hello all,


I have some concerns about my Landlord that I would like some advice on.

My wife and I rent a small house in Los Angeles that sits on the front of my Landlord's property. My Lease is with him and his wife. Part of the rental agreement is my up keep of the property when they are gone, which is most of the time. They are retired and on the surface entirely respectable members of the community.

Associated with the property is my Landlord's son and one of his friends. His son has had a sketchy past involving dealing drugs and shooting pornography out of the house we are living in. The price we are paying is fair based up the idea that I am taking care of the property.

My Landlord is not a conventional man and the longer we have stayed here the more concerned I am about his nature. His is a chronic drug user as is his son, and there have been a number of conspicuous incidents during our time here. The incidents have escalated and I'm now concerned for the safety of my wife, our dog and myself.

The problem I face is that all the targeting behavior has been aimed at me without any tangible proof that it ever even happened (Moving items in the house and then moving them back. Putting my truck in neutral when I left it in reverse. Loosening the wheel bolts on my motorcycle. Erasing hard drives on laptops with my own degaussing gun.)

Everything that has taken place can be explained as natural phenomenon, but when I'm in close quarters with either the father or the son, they will as much admit to doing these things.

So, the end result is that if I tell anyone, it starts to erode my credibility. I have one friend who went through the same problem with an ex-associate consistently picking the lock to his home and tampering with his belongings - it eventually lead to this individual doing a stretch in jail. But my wife and her family don't believe me when I tell them, so I'm now in a position where I don't tell them.

I'm not entirely sure what the motivating factor is for this behavior. And it is possible that it is entirely being manifest by the son and his associates alone. The son has a shady past and is prone to aggressive behavior. And the son and his friend are avid gun owners and use gun ownership as a constant implied threat.

I would like to move, but because my wife has not been the target for any of these incidents, she does not see any reason to move.

I can install security counter measures, but we don't have a great deal of money right now.


Any advice would be much appreciated.
Without details not alot we can help you with besides call the police and move. If you make some noise about calling hte police on your landlord and they are really doing drugs I'm sure they will let you out your lease ASAP.
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Old 03-08-2011, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Simmering in DFW
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You and your wife will have many challenges along the way. If this marriage is going to last, you have to be eachother's best friends and confidants. What will happen someday when you little child says s/he has been touched by her uncle or a stranger. Will your wife not believe it? We are talking about a family supporting each other. You are not happy there. These people give you the creeps. When your lease is up or soon, if possible, you want to move. If your wife (and WTH do her parents have to do with this) isn't in your corner, time to really think about how your life will be. Be a man and get your relationship in order now if you want a happy life. And also plan your move away.
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:54 PM
 
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Do you have a lease, and if so, when is it up?
We are month to month right now.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:02 PM
 
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You and your wife will have many challenges along the way. If this marriage is going to last, you have to be eachother's best friends and confidants. What will happen someday when you little child says s/he has been touched by her uncle or a stranger. Will your wife not believe it? We are talking about a family supporting each other. You are not happy there. These people give you the creeps. When your lease is up or soon, if possible, you want to move. If your wife (and WTH do her parents have to do with this) isn't in your corner, time to really think about how your life will be. Be a man and get your relationship in order now if you want a happy life. And also plan your move away.
I'm tellin' ya, it's an odd predicament, because my reaction to these things has been extreme anger and because they are ALL happening to me, the whole thing starts to look like my mental problems coming to the surface.

A buddy of mine went through this and had the same thing happen to him: everybody started to doubt his word, because it all seemed impossible to believe. Eventually he stopped telling people.

You can find these tactics documented on the web as a method of "punishing" people who have been perceived by vigilante groups as having broken the law, and then slipping through the system to get away with it.

In this case it just a couple of guys, but it does add up. And if a Data Recovery company can't get my drives back, I've lost years of work.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Columbia, California
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Set up some video cameras and sue.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Simmering in DFW
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I'm tellin' ya, it's an odd predicament, because my reaction to these things has been extreme anger and because they are ALL happening to me, the whole thing starts to look like my mental problems coming to the surface.

A buddy of mine went through this and had the same thing happen to him: everybody started to doubt his word, because it all seemed impossible to believe. Eventually he stopped telling people.

You can find these tactics documented on the web as a method of "punishing" people who have been perceived by vigilante groups as having broken the law, and then slipping through the system to get away with it.

In this case it just a couple of guys, but it does add up. And if a Data Recovery company can't get my drives back, I've lost years of work.
Has your wife had a long history of experiencing you making allegations
or acting paranoid? If the answer is NO then you 100% deserve that she does not doubt you for a single second. Your partner, your best friend, the person who has vowed to honor you and share your life.....you shouldn't have to PROVE anything to her if you are so unnerved by these people and want to move. Your inlaws have no say in the decisions you two make. You can not allow your word to be doubted. If your word is doubted and there is not a history of you being a drama queen or paranoid, then you are not properly loved. Better manage that. I really hope you think seriously about what I write. You will have a very unhappy time in your marriage if you don't have the deep down solid core feeling that no matter where you live you have a home with a true partner. Its time for you to draw a line in the sand and find out who's side your wife is on and then if she's on your side, she will agree that you are terribly uncomfortable and its time to move. 'nuff said.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Kailua Kona, HI
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You're on MTM and you haven't given Notice and moved yet? why?
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