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Old 07-21-2012, 02:25 PM
 
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I can't imagine having let a LL in on so many of my personal details.

If they're not exceeding residency limits for the amount of space, I don't think it's the LLs business who visits and how often they do. You also shouldn't be involved in how many dinner plates a tenant owns, or the color of their couch. Boundaries people!

If I were the LL though, I'd say no to the gate pass.
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Old 07-21-2012, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Kailua Kona, HI
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I have met him when we went and did a repair to the condo. So, if I require that he completes an app and find he is not credit worthy or unemployed with no income, what would be my next step? My condo is one of less than 20 in the condo community (of 98 townhouses) with a renter. Very vocal HOA group. I would be quickly advised if there is trouble in my condo. One time my tenant's parking spot had an oil spot and immediately they emailed me demanding cleanup within 2 days.....very involved people live there -- many retirees who are outside in the courtyard in front of the condo quite often just visiting or reading on the benches in the flower garden.

all I can say is, in my experience of over 6 years residential property management of over 150 properties, if you let the tail wag the dog, you're gonna be sorry later. It's your choice.
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Old 07-21-2012, 03:03 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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So, if I require that he completes an app and find he is not credit worthy
or unemployed with no income, what would be my next step?
Or you learn that he has a legal address, is perfectly fine financially,
asserts that he is an "occasional" guest, and has no interest in applying for anything.
Then what is the next step?

Yes *conversationally* you can (and should!) discuss the situation with your tenant...
and remind them of what clause 16 of the lease says and then *ask* the tenant how
they would prefer to go about things in light of the lease renewing in September.

Do it with a light hand on the reins.
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My condo is one of less than 20 in the condo community (of 98 townhouses) with a renter.
Very vocal HOA group. I would be quickly advised if there is trouble in my condo. One time my tenant's parking spot had an oil spot and immediately they emailed me demanding cleanup within 2 days... very involved people live there -- many retirees who are outside in the courtyard in front of the condo quite often just visiting or reading on the benches in the flower garden.
Sell. I couldn't live there myself nor expect any other normal person to endure that.
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Old 07-21-2012, 03:06 PM
 
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I can't imagine having let a LL in on so many of my personal details.

If they're not exceeding residency limits for the amount of space, I don't think it's the LLs business who visits and how often they do. You also shouldn't be involved in how many dinner plates a tenant owns, or the color of their couch. Boundaries people!

If I were the LL though, I'd say no to the gate pass.

This isn't about exceeding residency limits nor is it about boundaries. It's about moving another resident in without adding them to the lease and getting approval from the landlord.
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Old 07-21-2012, 04:48 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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It's about moving another resident in without adding them to the lease and getting approval from the landlord.
Actually it isn't. If it were as simple as you describe the matter would be settled already.

It's about the appearance of and suspicions about a situation that really can't be proven...
with an otherwise perfectly fine tenant living in the middle of nosey neighbor hell where
if anything was actually amiss it would have been reported to the OP 20 times over.

dogs porches hornets nests sticks
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Old 07-21-2012, 06:27 PM
 
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Actually it isn't. If it were as simple as you describe the matter would be settled already.

It's about the appearance of and suspicions about a situation that really can't be proven...
with an otherwise perfectly fine tenant living in the middle of nosey neighbor hell where
if anything was actually amiss it would have been reported to the OP 20 times over.

dogs porches hornets nests sticks
I think the landlord can prove it but why go there. Landlord is on the fence about pressing the issue about getting the "uncle" added to the lease. Landlord knows it's not an uncle and landlord knows the person is living there.

The issue here, if landlord mentions adding the uncle to the lease, there is a risk that a good tenant leaves. Is it worth the risk. That is the whole point of the original post. There does not seem to be any tenant issues with the nosey neighbors. It's really about following the rules of the lease versus landlord knowing the lease is being broken but should landlord look the other way because everything else is good with this tenant.
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Old 07-21-2012, 06:36 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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I think the landlord can prove it but why go there.
Because that's the crux of why it keeps getting rehashed.

However much we "know" we really don't *know*.
We can infer and impute and assert til the cows come home... but that doesn't change it.

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The issue here, if landlord mentions adding the uncle to the lease, there is a risk that...
Right. I've made these points several times over now. As have others.
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:03 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Actually, if the rule is that only tenants....not guests....have gate keys, then extend your sympathies that it may be more convenient to give his guest a key, but you are not going to set a precedent by breaking it for one tenant.
If uncle then desires to become a co-tenant, then you can proceed along those lines.
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Old 07-22-2012, 04:11 AM
 
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Actually it isn't. If it were as simple as you describe the matter would be settled already.

It's about the appearance of and suspicions about a situation that really can't be proven...
with an otherwise perfectly fine tenant living in the middle of nosey neighbor hell where
if anything was actually amiss it would have been reported to the OP 20 times over.

dogs porches hornets nests sticks


You've already proven that reading comprehension isn't your strong point, please go back and read the comment that I was refering to.
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Old 07-22-2012, 04:21 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Why would the "uncle" need to fill out an application? Just add that person to the lease.

If a family moved in would you require the husband, wife and each child fill out an application? What about if the wife doesn't work? Since the children wouldn't have work history you can't rent to them ...

I am guessing this is a two bedroom place? Wouldn't you think two people would be living there?

If two persons are living there they would need to gate remotes.

WHY is this so complicated for some?

I think I know what the REAL issue here is.
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