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it may sound good and correct but if it is not on the lease the LL has to go away and leave it alone
The mother and daughter are not on the lease either. Would it be fair for the LL to tell the tenants to just have them go away and leave things alone? I'm sure the OP wouldn't like that, so if they are going to make changes to the lease in regards to their rental's occupants, I think its perfectly fine for the LL to also make some changes. Especially if the LL is paying utilities. The LL shouldn't have to pay for extra people using their utilities if it wasn't agreed upon when the tenant first moved in. The LL is probably also hoping that the extra charges will discourage the OP from having a revolving door of friends and family staying in their rental.
Sorry, OP. You can not rent a place, telling the landlord it will just be you, and then start moving in all your relatives.
That rental is only for the people on the lease. You don't get to move in all the people you want to have live with you. You are lucky that the landlord agreed to let them stay for additional rent instead of giving you notice to have them move out or you would be evicted.
Incidentally, don't count on a good landlord reference. I just rejected an applicant when I learned she had moved in her daughter and granddaughter without permission where she is now, and that is why she was given notice to move. That cost her her current place and it cost her my nice rental that she really wanted, too. I don't want tenants who can't follow the rules and neither does the landlord who just kicked her out.
You might want to think really hard before you act. If you cause a stink about the illegal apartment, the city only gives you a couple of days to move out, and with a bad landlord reference, you'll have trouble finding a new place to live. Believe me, the result will not be that you can move in all the extra people for the same rent.
Sorry, OP. You can not rent a place, telling the landlord it will just be you, and then start moving in all your relatives.
That rental is only for the people on the lease. You don't get to move in all the people you want to have live with you. You are lucky that the landlord agreed to let them stay for additional rent instead of giving you notice to have them move out or you would be evicted.
Incidentally, don't count on a good landlord reference. I just rejected an applicant when I learned she had moved in her daughter and granddaughter without permission where she is now, and that is why she was given notice to move. That cost her her current place and it cost her my nice rental that she really wanted, too. I don't want tenants who can't follow the rules and neither does the landlord who just kicked her out.
You might want to think really hard before you act. If you cause a stink about the illegal apartment, the city only gives you a couple of days to move out, and with a bad landlord reference, you'll have trouble finding a new place to live. Believe me, the result will not be that you can move in all the extra people for the same rent.
this ^^
When I read the Op I thought the same exact thing. Here is a tenant who wants to move half the neighborhood in and expects the landlord to turn a blind eye.
Water isn't the issue here....it's the fact that the lease is for two people (Im assuming) and now she wants to move two more in. Those two, if legally allowed in the unit, need to be approved by the landlord. That means applications, credit checks, income verification and background check.
You can't just move someone in because you want to. In my last complex three of my neighbors evicted for doing this. The moved 6 people into a two bedroom unit..it didn't take long for management to find out.
We don't allow any other people to stay longer than 14 days or we need to approve them.
Either a place is legal and you stay or it is illegal and you move out. Staying and then trying to avoid paying for a claim of illegal rental is BS and a judge will see right through you.
We don't allow any other people to stay longer than 14 days or we need to approve them.
Either a place is legal and you stay or it is illegal and you move out. Staying and then trying to avoid paying for a claim of illegal rental is BS and a judge will see right through you.
I just moved from Oregon to Ohio. I rented in Portland and am renting in Cleveland. In each city my leases clearly stated that I and only I was on the lease and the legal occupant of the apartment. In Portland, wherever I rented my leases always stated that anyone having occupancy over 14 days must be cleared through the building owner. I had a friend stay for a week and my LL actually asked her how long she intended to stay when she first arrived.
I don't remember seeing a 14 day limit on guests in my lease for my Cleveland apartment but the signed agreement that I am to be the only one to live here would cover that issue. I will have to check on that. In any case, I wouldn't move people in behind the manger's back. Heck, even though cats were allowed, I told her when I was getting one.
The point is, the OP should look up the rules in her city and state in whatever landlord/tenant rules might prevail. I think that even though there might not be anything specific in her lease about adding people, the fact that it was signed for her and her alone to live there is enough to warrant a new lease being signed if she brings in other people to occupy the apartment. And a new lease means a rent increase. I think that's fair seeing as how more people cause more wear and tear on the apartment and additional cost for use of utilities.
Continue to pay your rent, and if you need to take them to court. Check your landlord-tenant laws and find out if it is illegal. If so you have a great case. But please don't withhold rent, that is a mistake. Don't give the landlord an excuse.
Good luck.
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