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Old 05-16-2018, 02:10 PM
 
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I would list everything and send the bill. You don't have to pursue this bill in court if you don't want but they might actually pay it. I've had tenants pay bills that were less than $100 after a few years had passed. It always shocks me when I get a check after a couple years and don't get a reference call to follow that up with but it happens.
You probably get a check later when the tenant realizes that the debt is biting them in butt. Maybe they're trying to rent again or buy a car.
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Old 05-16-2018, 02:10 PM
 
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I would list everything and send the bill. You don't have to pursue this bill in court if you don't want but they might actually pay it. I've had tenants pay bills that were less than $100 after a few years had passed. It always shocks me when I get a check after a couple years and don't get a reference call to follow that up with but it happens.
Oh wow good for you. I highly doubt that they will pay it. The nerve of the guy to text my husband saying they are looking forward to getting their deposit soon.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:42 PM
 
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Yes, OP., that is tenant caused damage. You can charge them for 100% of the cost of repairing the chewed up posts.

The tenant doesn't get to tell you how much you are allowed to charge for damage.

If it goes to court, you will need to show receipts and photos.
No the tenant does not, but the court does.

All repair costs have to be within reason, with what the material and condition was before move in as a factor.

I’d you had crap rug you don’t get to install wood floors now and bill the tenant, as an example
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:53 PM
 
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Question on itemized deductions should those be the actual costs or estimates are acceptable? Meaning the work should already be done before I provide the tenant the letter re not getting security deposit back.
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Old 05-16-2018, 09:44 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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You will have a time frame to return the deposit. In a couple of states, you need to provide receipts to the tenant, but most states you don't.

If the work has not been completed within that time frame, you deduct the amount of the written estimate.

30 days to get the account to the tenant is fairly common, but a few states don't give you that much time. Be sure you know your state law about deposit refund time periods be cause there are penalties if you don't get it done in time.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Question on itemized deductions should those be the actual costs or estimates are acceptable? Meaning the work should already be done before I provide the tenant the letter re not getting security deposit back.
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You will have a time frame to return the deposit. In a couple of states, you need to provide receipts to the tenant, but most states you don't.

If the work has not been completed within that time frame, you deduct the amount of the written estimate.

30 days to get the account to the tenant is fairly common, but a few states don't give you that much time. Be sure you know your state law about deposit refund time periods be cause there are penalties if you don't get it done in time.
If you'll get the work done in the time allotted by the MO statutes, best to provide the receipt. Even if it makes no difference in a court proceeding, its an added measure against the headachey moaning text/letter/email/threat to sue about "the greedy LL is just keeping my deposit because he's a jerkface."

Don't talk about how sloppy your tenants were, or rude, or "the nerve," and don't talk about how magnanimous and generous you were either.

Just send a letter, with the pictures, and the receipt, and a bill. Even if you don't intend to pursue collection on the bill, it might be another measure against threats, complaints, etc...

The paint and carpet I assume are now 11 years old (4 years tenancy, 7 years you lived there...) so depreciated value is minimal. Again, don't mention it...
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:37 PM
 
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If you'll get the work done in the time allotted by the MO statutes, best to provide the receipt. Even if it makes no difference in a court proceeding, its an added measure against the headachey moaning text/letter/email/threat to sue about "the greedy LL is just keeping my deposit because he's a jerkface."

Don't talk about how sloppy your tenants were, or rude, or "the nerve," and don't talk about how magnanimous and generous you were either.

Just send a letter, with the pictures, and the receipt, and a bill. Even if you don't intend to pursue collection on the bill, it might be another measure against threats, complaints, etc...

The paint and carpet I assume are now 11 years old (4 years tenancy, 7 years you lived there...) so depreciated value is minimal. Again, don't mention it...
Good luck being awarded much on a carpet that’s 11 years old.
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Old 05-18-2018, 10:28 AM
 
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Good luck being awarded much on a carpet that’s 11 years old.

I didn't mention carpet is included in any deduction. Even before we saw the condition of the house it was already planned to be replaced.
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Old 05-18-2018, 10:32 AM
 
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Just an update, I found a guy willing to do the stairs for $850. That includes replacing the chewed up newel post, sanding everything and filling up deep scratches, priming and painting everything white. So it's not going to be back to the original stained wood condition but he assured it will look good. Tenants may get some deposit back after all.
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