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View Poll Results: So, is the 04-06 GTO a real musclecar?
You bet it's a real musclecar 22 53.66%
It's not even close to a musclecar 18 43.90%
What the heck's a musclecar? 1 2.44%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-30-2012, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Prosper
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Wow, so many of you are wrong to bring price into the discussion at all.

I guess most of you don't know that the true muscle cars were the ones that had all the options checked, making them some of the more expensive cars on the road.

Take the 1964 GTO. The average price of a car in 1964 was $3500. The 64 GTO with the larger engine ran $4500. Muscle cars with the biggest engines put in them were some of the most expensive cars back then.

You want to argue price, that's a bang for the buck argument. It has nothing to do with whether the 2004-06 GTO is a muscle car.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:25 PM
 
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This is the idea of a muscle car. To get more performance and less luxury for cheap, and be able to beat more expensive cars.
If that was the case, we'd all be driving Fox body Mustangs running 11's in the 1/4 for under $8k.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:32 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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If that was the case, we'd all be driving Fox body Mustangs running 11's in the 1/4 for under $8k.
Don't be naive. It's no secret that many people want those characteristics in a new car (for a multitude of reasons). This is what the 2011+ Mustang GT is about and in a different price bracket, the Nissan GTR.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:33 PM
 
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Expand that beyond the obvious competitors, none of which beat the 05-06, to anything in that price range. Ownr has repeatedly said how slow the GTO was, and suggested that near everything was faster, which I'm disputing.
Actually if you read my posts, I'd never brought up price before your post. How many criteria do you want to add to a discussion that is a simple question... Is it a muscle car?

Price is irrelevant, we're not talking bang for the buck. We're talking how fast is it. The GTO goes pretty fast for the dollar, so does a Corvette. So what?

A GTO is going to get killed by an old guy coming back from his golf outing in a SL600.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:34 PM
 
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Don't be naive. It's no secret that many people want those characteristics in a new car (for a multitude of reasons).
Sure. It's called bang for the buck. That doesn't make a car a muscle car, just because it can go fast for cheap.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:35 PM
 
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This is what the 2011+ Mustang GT is about and in a different price bracket, the Nissan GTR.
So a 2011 Mustang is a muscle car because it's in a different price bracket than a GTR?
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:38 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Wow, so many of you are wrong to bring price into the discussion at all.

I guess most of you don't know that the true muscle cars were the ones that had all the options checked, making them some of the more expensive cars on the road.

Take the 1964 GTO. The average price of a car in 1964 was $3500. The 64 GTO with the larger engine ran $4500. Muscle cars with the biggest engines put in them were some of the most expensive cars back then.

You want to argue price, that's a bang for the buck argument. It has nothing to do with whether the 2004-06 GTO is a muscle car.
2006 Average sales price: $28,451

2006 Pontiac GTO MSRP: $31,290
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:39 PM
 
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So a 2011 Mustang is a muscle car because it's in a different price bracket than a GTR?
Quote me saying this.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Prosper
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Why don't you explain what your post is saying then?
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:42 PM
 
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Sure. It's called bang for the buck. That doesn't make a car a muscle car, just because it can go fast for cheap.
So are you disputing the statement below?

"This is the idea of a muscle car. To get more performance and less luxury for cheap, and be able to beat more expensive cars."
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