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And just exactly what hell-raising do you think retirees would do? Send an e-mail? Write a letter? Threaten to vote them out of office (as if we actually could)? March on Washington? Well, we all know how well all that has helped re other things.
[On Nov.1, food stamps are going to be cut. People are angry -- but how much 'hell-raising' have you seen? Certainly nothing that prevented that cut from taking place.]
Over the past 12 years, our civil rights and liberties have been taken away -- and now we know that we're also being spied on -- and what 'hell raising' have we done and are we doing -- anything that has really made a difference, I mean? We're still being spied on -- our phones, our computers, on the streets.
When the SS and Medicare cuts come, we'll do what we've always done: lie down and taken it.
I understand what you're saying. But not when they start messing with Social Security. That's a whole different animal.
I understand what you're saying. But not when they start messing with Social Security. That's a whole different animal.
I sure hope so. Because I know senior citizens -- right now -- today -- who can barely make ends meet. [And while I do think that some of it was poor planning, it wasn't, for example, for the 82-year-old teacher, whose husband suddenly died in his 50s and left her to finish raising their children alone.] Seniors who are making ends meet quite well and can't get a timely Medicare appointment. Seniors who can't get adequate cancer treatment. I know an elderly woman, with congestive heart failure, whose doctor told her, at her last appointment, that she didn't need to make another appointment for a year. I don't think he wanted to treat her anymore -- at the end of this year, she'll be dead.
Most of here on this thread aren't hurting (if we lost most or even all of our SS, we wouldn't even be close to being homeless). We tend to forget that a lot of our peers are right now. And sometimes we tend to forget that, for all our planning, our being well off is just the luck of the draw, 'the grace of God', fate -- whatever you want to call it. When I was starting out, I was simply in the right place at the right time, and with an extremely good education. Otherwise, I'd certainly be among the less fortunate. And I never forget how fortunate I was and am.
Yes, I do hope we hell-raise. Not just for ourselves but for them too.
I sure hope so. Because I know senior citizens -- right now -- today -- who can barely make ends meet. [And while I do think that some of it was poor planning, it wasn't, for example, for the 82-year-old teacher, whose husband suddenly died in his 50s and left her to finish raising their children alone.] Seniors who are making ends meet quite well and can't get a timely Medicare appointment. Seniors who can't get adequate cancer treatment. I know an elderly woman, with congestive heart failure, whose doctor told her, at her last appointment, that she didn't need to make another appointment for a year. I don't think he wanted to treat her anymore -- at the end of this year, she'll be dead.
Most of here on this thread aren't hurting (if we lost most or even all of our SS, we wouldn't even be close to being homeless). We tend to forget that a lot of our peers are right now. And sometimes we tend to forget that, for all our planning, our being well off is just the luck of the draw, 'the grace of God', fate -- whatever you want to call it. When I was starting out, I was simply in the right place at the right time, and with an extremely good education. Otherwise, I'd certainly be among the less fortunate. And I never forget how fortunate I was and am.
Yes, I do hope we hell-raise. Not just for ourselves but for them too.
God Bless you, Fran66. It's nice to hear someone who isn't tottering on the "brink" remember the rest of the Joe Schmoes who are.
Contemplate the paltry COLA and the threats to SS and Medicare in the context of the fact that some $92 billion is spend annually on corporate subsidies. What is the total budget for SS?
Contemplate the paltry COLA and the threats to SS and Medicare in the context of the fact that some $92 billion is spend annually on corporate subsidies. What is the total budget for SS?
".....Hofmeister’s comments come at a time when Democrats in both chambers of Congress are calling out Republicans for their continued support for the subsidies while pledging to slash funding in almost every area of the federal government. Republicans have not and almost certainly will not cut the subsidies despite this political pressure. The GOP and the American Petroleum Institute say that the subsidies are necessary so jobs in the industry aren’t lost or shipped to other countries."
What is more essential to a healthy productive economy, Corporations or the elderly? Not sure I want that answered.
You know the answer. No one -- no one -- wants the old and elderly around. Not even their kids want them around. (They MAY take care of Mommy and Daddy because that's makes them look good and especially if Mommy and Daddy have money to leave them.)
For the most part, we have stopped producing (we pay little or no taxes) and we use up more than our fair share in medical costs.
I live in a high rise complex that used to be 55+. A lot of the tenants who moved in 10-30 years ago are still here. Five of six residents, who died in the last year, died in their apartments all alone. One body wasn't found for 2 days. One woman who has all her adult children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren living in the same city was stuck in her chair for 3 days before someone found her. One woman who was/is moderately cognitively impaired laid on her bathroom for 24 hours before an adult child called her and found out she was there. (She wasn't 'together' enough to make a call out.) One elderly resident (no relatives) lived in filth, didn't shower, and he called 911 and said he was suicidal before he got the help he needed. We have one elderly resident who is moderately cognitively impaired, and she has no one but an adult son who lives 2/3 of the way across the country. One elderly woman was on a church retreat when she had a mild stroke. Two of her church members brought her home and asked me to take her upstairs because they had to get back to the retreat. And these are middle-class and upper-middle-class retirees!
I just made my first Medicare appointment, and they gave me a date 8 weeks out.
Those of us who are under 75-80 years of age -- we really have no real idea what it is like to be elderly in this country.
Ah, as much as I hate to say I told you so, I did predict the onslaught of ignorant ravings way back in my post #3 in this thread.
I haven't seen any ignorant ravings here. There are a wide range of opinions on cause and effect of COLA specifically and on SS generally.
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[That's pretty rare around here. 
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