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That's really interesting--Third Place. Around here that would be Dunkin Donuts. In the mornings elderly people sit around drinking their coffee, eating, gabbing and people watching.
England does a much better job at it than we do with their pubs. You can go to some village pubs any time of the day and there are people there to hang out with. It's like a home away from home. People come and go all day, people of all ages. A drop in sort of place. Both men and women go there at night to have a drink, sit around and talk, play games like darts or something on the idea of pool. They'll have trivia contests and some of the pubs used to have sing alongs. Everybody knows each other, and there's no distinction of the social classes, they all can go hang out at the pub. No one tells you to leave either.
If only senior centers could learn a thing or two from this MacDonald's experience. NORC=naturally occurring retirement center. I like that.
You know I think the McDonald's 'incident' gives a bt more publicity to seniors and their lives in the big city. I personally have seen the changes firsthand. This is a social and community issue that most probably will get more play as the population ages. Perhaps the social research that has ben done on public spaces and those who use those spaces will help to understand the challenges ahead for the older population and deal with them appropriately.
I thought of that with my suggestion and think that if people are going in there for "fast food"...eat and get out....that whether there's any scenery or not wouldn't matter. These would be the paying customers.
I suspect the store is happy with their resolution. I never looked at it as how to make the seniors lose but rather was hoping the interest of all could be promoted. I have not seen anything that the owners are not happy to be moving on with a positive local community result.
That's really interesting--Third Place. Around here that would be Dunkin Donuts. In the mornings elderly people sit around drinking their coffee, eating, gabbing and people watching.
England does a much better job at it than we do with their pubs. You can go to some village pubs any time of the day and there are people there to hang out with. It's like a home away from home. People come and go all day, people of all ages. A drop in sort of place. Both men and women go there at night to have a drink, sit around and talk, play games like darts or something on the idea of pool. They'll have trivia contests and some of the pubs used to have sing alongs. Everybody knows each other, and there's no distinction of the social classes, they all can go hang out at the pub. No one tells you to leave either.
If only senior centers could learn a thing or two from this MacDonald's experience. NORC=naturally occurring retirement center. I like that.
Yup a lot to be learned about the outcomes of aging in place.
Since it's often the only 24 hours place McD. and the local donut shops have become more of a druggie drop in and panhandlers hangout in my cities. No thanks. This now includes the libraries which, with one bathroom on each floor, were never designed to service this kind of client base.
You know I think the McDonald's 'incident' gives a bt more publicity to seniors and their lives in the big city. I personally have seen the changes firsthand. This is a social and community issue that most probably will get more play as the population ages. Perhaps the social research that has ben done on public spaces and those who use those spaces will help to understand the challenges ahead for the older population and deal with them appropriately.
It sure does give "a bit more publicity to seniors...", exactly the kind which seniors would be better off without! It paints seniors as rude, self-centered, self-absorbed, and disdainful of all other people. How you could seemingly paint this business in a positive light is beyond my comprehension.
It sure does give "a bit more publicity to seniors...", exactly the kind which seniors would be better off without! It paints seniors as rude, self-centered, self-absorbed, and disdainful of all other people. How you could seemingly paint this business in a positive light is beyond my comprehension.
I'd say it was both negative and positive publicity for seniors. The positive might be that seniors do not want to be shut away in a dank basement of a senior center. This incident showed that they want to be out in the middle of things. Maybe not quite in the middle, but just off to one side and able to watch the middle. They want windows so they can see the world, they want bright and cheerful. Ideally they probably would like a cafe or coffee shop atmosphere. This might be a valuable lesson for people who are studying the wants and needs of older people and actually, the group didn't turn out to be so selfish and rude after all.
I'd say it was both negative and positive publicity for seniors. The positive might be that seniors do not want to be shut away in a dank basement of a senior center. This incident showed that they want to be out in the middle of things. Maybe not quite in the middle, but just off to one side and able to watch the middle. They want windows so they can see the world, they want bright and cheerful. Ideally they probably would like a cafe or coffee shop atmosphere. This might be a valuable lesson for people who are studying the wants and needs of older people and actually, the group didn't turn out to be so selfish and rude after all.
Well, it appears McDonald's gave them all of that.
What they haven't done is reciprocate by being appreciative and spending 'any' money.
How do you figure they turned out to be anything other than selfish and rude when they didn't do what they should voluntarily?
I agree, OldCold! Businesses are no there to cater to "the wants and needs of older people," unless they are specifically designed to do so....and only if the older people stoke the fires of commerce by actually spending money. I'm pretty sure no business can stay open if less than 2 bucks a day is spent; most kids would give up on a lemonade stand if they sold less than 2 dollars! Yup, I know, OTHER people are buying enough to keep that McD's in business....but shouldn't those other people who keep the business going then be entitled to those seats?
I still the group as selfish and rude. They did not voluntarily give up their seats, even knowing that other people had bought an entire lunch to eat...and that many of those people could have been workers on a lunch break with precious little time to relax. They didn't even respect the police.
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It sure does!
