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Old 08-11-2016, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Your physician? Your health care provider?

In California any person (spouse, relatives) who stands to benefit financially from your death cannot be the person making life/death decisions. I have no relatives so who should I appoint and give the papers to?
Wrong. Look at the end of this. Witness is the non related etc.person.

CA Codes (prob:4700-4701)
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Old 08-11-2016, 06:13 PM
 
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I'd give advance directives to anyone and everyone who might treat me (assuming I live in one area and don't wander much). I gave mine to the local hospital, my health care plan, my doctor, my health care proxy (since that is a separate designation) and my lawyer.

When I move to Colorado in retirement, I will do the same thing, with the hope that my HCP will still have standing despite living in Massachusetts.

I have considered nailing copies of both to my front door should anyone dash into my house to rescue me from something. I carry a copy of my HCP in my wallet for possible car crashes.

Yes, I work in health care.
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Old 08-11-2016, 08:07 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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tattoo it to your chest.

Every time my dad went to the hospital, (and was conscious) they would take an oral statement that totally negates the AD.

He would always say, "do whatever it takes to keep me alive, full code".

That works fine, until it doesn't.... then you have a BIG problem (and I had a lot of those in the 32 yrs I had care of him).

I have to keep separate AD's for adjacent states. When I used to have insurance... my care could have been in either state (HC centers in each, 5 miles apart). Now it will be in Neither state.
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Old 08-11-2016, 09:55 PM
 
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Wrong. Look at the end of this. Witness is the non related etc.person.

CA Codes (prob:4700-4701)
It's a very murky area. There are advance directives, living wills, durable power of attorney, and the requirements differ from state to state. If a physician disagrees with the spouse's decision to end their spouse's life he can step in and appoint someone else to be the agent

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For example, in Tennessee, the supervising healthcare provider selects the decision-maker after giving consideration to the patient’s spouse, adult child, etc. (2) Similarly, in Indiana, any of those listed (spouse, parent, adult child, sibling, etc.) can decide for the incapacitated patient. (3) West Virginia gives the patient’s attending physician or an advanced nurse practitioner the right to select the decision-maker from the priority listing based on who the physician or nurse believes would be the best decision-maker. (4) Thus, if the doctor doesn’t agree with the patient’s spouse about what should or should not be done, that physician can designate someone else (a parent, sibling, or close friend of the patient) as the decision-maker. And then there’s Connecticut where decision-making is left to the physician in consultation with the next of kin. (5) Note that this means only that the next of kin must be consulted. It does not mean that there must be agreement. Essentially, the doctor calls the shots.
The big deciding factor is whether a spouse's decision would be influenced by their personally benefiting in some way from the spouse's death. I mean that just goes without saying. If I stand to inherit my wife's multi-million dollar estate and I'm appointed health agent do you really think I'm going to get away with telling the doctor to pull the plug?
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Old 08-12-2016, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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I'd give advance directives to anyone and everyone who might treat me (assuming I live in one area and don't wander much). I gave mine to the local hospital, my health care plan, my doctor, my health care proxy (since that is a separate designation) and my lawyer.

When I move to Colorado in retirement, I will do the same thing, with the hope that my HCP will still have standing despite living in Massachusetts.

I have considered nailing copies of both to my front door should anyone dash into my house to rescue me from something. I carry a copy of my HCP in my wallet for possible car crashes.

Yes, I work in health care.
You will probably want to visit an attorney in CO about your Healthcare POA, as well as your will and/or trust information if that is what you have. We had to redo our stuff in WA after moving from MO. I think each state has different forms for POA.
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Old 08-13-2016, 12:43 PM
 
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You can name a friend.
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Old 08-13-2016, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It's a very murky area. There are advance directives, living wills, durable power of attorney, and the requirements differ from state to state. If a physician disagrees with the spouse's decision to end their spouse's life he can step in and appoint someone else to be the agent



The big deciding factor is whether a spouse's decision would be influenced by their personally benefiting in some way from the spouse's death. I mean that just goes without saying. If I stand to inherit my wife's multi-million dollar estate and I'm appointed health agent do you really think I'm going to get away with telling the doctor to pull the plug?

As you stated it varies by state. Your original question mentions CA. Maybe you should have mentioned the state you are interest in or if you travel a lot ask what works in most states.
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