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Old 10-04-2018, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Florida Baby!
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You can experience a similar situation with Boomers vs oldsters.
Hmmm...Boomers...I prefer the term "Mid-century modern...."
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Old 10-04-2018, 05:49 PM
 
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You can experience a similar situation with Boomers vs oldsters.
I don't want to petty fog the use of terms but wouldn't "Oldsters" be the "Boomers"? The pre-Boomer Oldsters i.e the WWII'ers, Ward Cleavers et al are pretty much gone now. Just a few superannuated 90+ types.

The big Push-Come-Shove future wars might be between leading edge Boomers and their Ebbing Wave
co-horts sometimes referred to as Generation Jones. But that has yet to become clear.
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Old 10-04-2018, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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The issue is hardly exclusive to communities with HOAs. Exactly the same ting can happen when more affluent people move en mass into a less affluent town; it's just that taxes go up to support whatever improved community features the newcomers want, instead of HOA fees. Either way, the less affluent get gradually (or not so gradually) pushed out because they can no longer afford to live there.
Yes, that's what happened (and is still happening) in Napa Valley.

I have to say I read that whole article this morning and felt badly for the people who moved there because it was a place they could afford. Frankly, I'm appalled at the attitudes of some of the pro-pickleball mob, suggesting that those on limited incomes should go get jobs or "it's only a little more money" or whatever. Usually I defend affluent folk on issues but on this one I think they're tone deaf. If they have so much money why don't they build their own pickleball courts and leave their neighbors out of it?

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Old 10-04-2018, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Kalamalka Lake, B.C.
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It could be worse. They could be going for a new marina, which is happening up where I am. Lots of levels of govt. are involved, and due to a change in the societies Act just last year, you can actually have Board meetings in Zimbadwe if you want to, which effectively means a good net scammer can pull all kinds of stuff, with our money, your land, and leave you holding the bill.

Unfortunately, it's about the only "vehicle" today to address rental demand, care of the elderly, and lots of other over 55 issues.
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Old 10-04-2018, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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I don't want to petty fog the use of terms but wouldn't "Oldsters" be the "Boomers"? The pre-Boomer Oldsters i.e the WWII'ers, Ward Cleavers et al are pretty much gone now. Just a few superannuated 90+ types.
No, the Greatest Generation may be on their last legs, but the Silent Generation is very much alive and kicking. Why does everyone forget the Silents?
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:19 PM
 
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No, the Greatest Generation may be on their last legs, but the Silent Generation is very much alive and kicking. Why does everyone forget the Silents?
They should really speak up.
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:50 PM
 
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No, the Greatest Generation may be on their last legs, but the Silent Generation is very much alive and kicking. Why does everyone forget the Silents?
Right. The eldest of the Boomers were born in 1946, making them 72, so not exactly Methusalah. There is still at least one previous generation standing between the Boomers and the Grim Reaper (the Silents), and actually even the aged remnants of a generation prior to the Silents (the Greatest).

The youngest of the Boomers will turn 54 this year, mostly still toiling away, with full retirement age still 13 years in the future.
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Old 10-04-2018, 09:11 PM
 
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The issue is hardly exclusive to communities with HOAs. Exactly the same ting can happen when more affluent people move en mass into a less affluent town; it's just that taxes go up to support whatever improved community features the newcomers want, instead of HOA fees. Either way, the less affluent get gradually (or not so gradually) pushed out because they can no longer afford to live there.
There is a huge difference. Sure taxes may go up eventually but they usually will go up anyway very gradually and not at the whim of a few of your neighbors. People can't just demand and make improvements in a town or city. There are city codes and city counsels and a ton bureaucracy.
If a bunch of wealthy people move into a community and demand a park, it sometimes takes years for it to happen. If a bunch of wealthy people move into my neighborhood and start making improvement to their own homes, it helps appreciate the value of my home as well.
HOA fees IMO have become absurdly expensive in many places eating up a large portion of your house payment and they increase at the whim of a few people. If you can afford it and don't care great, otherwise moving into such a community isn't such a great idea.
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Old 10-04-2018, 09:41 PM
 
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If you have good eyes, scroll down below the subscription pitch and you can read the article through its opaque covering.

What a reprehensible bunch of creeps with more money than they know what to do with.
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Old 10-04-2018, 11:48 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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If you have good eyes, scroll down below the subscription pitch and you can read the article through its opaque covering.

What a reprehensible bunch of creeps with more money than they know what to do with.
Nope...it said "subcribe" or "sign in" and when I scrolled past, it just had links to a bunch of other stories. It might depend on how many "free" articles you've read.
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