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Old 06-27-2021, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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You answered your own question. You have doubts (red flags) so go by your gut instincts. Nine out of ten times, they are right.

Hi hon! I was going to get around to messaging you soon! Thanks for confirming how I felt. Talk to you soon!
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Old 06-29-2021, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Interesting. Thanks.
I had a teacher that worked at a Wolf sanctuary. They fed entirely roadkilled deer. Her comment was "you'd be surprised how nasty the deer can be and it isn't a problem."
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Old 06-29-2021, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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I had a teacher that worked at a Wolf sanctuary. They fed entirely roadkilled deer. Her comment was "you'd be surprised how nasty the deer can be and it isn't a problem."

OMG, I saw the aftermath of a roadkill in Montana -- sprayed at least 25 or 30 feet. Deer or elk vs semi. YIKES!
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Old 06-29-2021, 01:45 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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I hope this is the right forum. If not, maybe a mod can move it.

I have a family member who lives on her boyfriend's farm and he wants me to buy into the farm, but I am looking at so many red flags. Among other things, I have witnessed him butchering an animal who died of unknown causes, in preparation for feeding the meat to his dogs.

Is it really safe and healthy to feed animals meat from livestock that died without knowing what killed it?

Many thanks in advance for advice.
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I would be a LOT MORE WORRIED about the logistics and legalities of my money, under such vague circumstances than I would be about feeding a dead cow to a dog.
...where my money might be going and what I might end up financially responsible for certainly would be———
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You answered your own question. You have doubts (red flags) so go by your gut instincts. Nine out of ten times, they are right.
Sounds very sticky and likely slimey.
WHY would the boyfriend want you to buy this farm?
Does he own it?, or is it rented to him?
Do you have a financial / criminal report on this guy?
How do you evict him when he dumps his GF as soon as you have bailed him out of debt?

This is very distant to YOU... "I have a family member who lives on her boyfriend's farm..." way too distant.
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Old 06-29-2021, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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I breed pigs. Our pigs are fenced in a 5-acre paddock of dense forest. Most years there are bears that over-winter on my land, in the Spring the bears start to wander around looking for something edible. So it is not unusual for a hungry bear to trip over the electric fence and wander into our pig paddock. Bears are known for having poor eyesight, so they will get pretty close to the pigs before they can see them. But once they see the pigs, the bears will turn around and run back into the forest as fast as they can run.

Well fed adult breeding pigs are significantly larger than black bears. I suspect that if a bear ever got too close to a pig, the pig would gladly eat the bear, fur and all.

Sometimes we raise chickens also. depending on how many chickens we have occasionally a chicken will die of unknown cause. So I toss the chicken carcass to the pigs. My sows have learned that if they pounce on a chicken carcass with their front feet, they can make the chicken squawk [like dog chew toy with a squeaky in it].

In March our dog found an intact rib cage and spine from a deer and he dragged it to our front door. The deer had been killed mid-winter by coyotes, but the coyotes had left behind at least half of the deer body. My dog was very happy to eat a 3 month old deer carcass. [I refuse to allow him to drag that junk into the house].
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Old 06-30-2021, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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Sounds very sticky and likely slimey.
WHY would the boyfriend want you to buy this farm?
Does he own it?, or is it rented to him?
Do you have a financial / criminal report on this guy?
How do you evict him when he dumps his GF as soon as you have bailed him out of debt?

This is very distant to YOU... "I have a family member who lives on her boyfriend's farm..." way too distant.

Yes! You're right! He is attempting to convince my niece that he has altruistic motives, just wanting her to have her family nearby. He owns the farm.


My story is that I lost my husband nine months ago and it's painful to stay in the house we own(ed). My niece wants to see me someplace more suitable and her boyfriend just wants to be bailed out of his mortgage. At our only discussion about it, he moaned and wailed about how his bad choice of a previous mate left him in the hole -- she stole all she could from him. I tentatively made a generous offer and he countered with his sob story and a price $100K higher than my offer!


Boy, am I glad that didn't work out! No, I haven't seen his financial or criminal history. He is mired in the emotional trainwreck he has made of his life. Spoiled, undisciplined adult kids, who would be his heirs. Trainwreck!
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Old 06-30-2021, 09:10 AM
 
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I breed pigs. Our pigs are fenced in a 5-acre paddock of dense forest. Most years there are bears that over-winter on my land, in the Spring the bears start to wander around looking for something edible. So it is not unusual for a hungry bear to trip over the electric fence and wander into our pig paddock. Bears are known for having poor eyesight, so they will get pretty close to the pigs before they can see them. But once they see the pigs, the bears will turn around and run back into the forest as fast as they can run.

Well fed adult breeding pigs are significantly larger than black bears. I suspect that if a bear ever got too close to a pig, the pig would gladly eat the bear, fur and all.

Sometimes we raise chickens also. depending on how many chickens we have occasionally a chicken will die of unknown cause. So I toss the chicken carcass to the pigs. My sows have learned that if they pounce on a chicken carcass with their front feet, they can make the chicken squawk [like dog chew toy with a squeaky in it].

In March our dog found an intact rib cage and spine from a deer and he dragged it to our front door. The deer had been killed mid-winter by coyotes, but the coyotes had left behind at least half of the deer body. My dog was very happy to eat a 3 month old deer carcass. [I refuse to allow him to drag that junk into the house].

YIKES! I thought my dog ate weird stuff! LOL!


That's a funny picture of the pigs with the squeaky toy!
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Old 06-30-2021, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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YIKES! I thought my dog ate weird stuff! LOL!


That's a funny picture of the pigs with the squeaky toy!
It is funny to watch them with their squeaky toy. But I can see that it is upsetting to the sensitivities of most urbanites.
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Old 06-30-2021, 10:59 AM
 
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It is funny to watch them with their squeaky toy. But I can see that it is upsetting to the sensitivities of most urbanites.
Just don't fall down in their paddock...



(It is a fun story about the chickens)
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Old 06-30-2021, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Just don't fall down in their paddock...

My sows all think that they are my pets. I talk [grunt] to them, and they talk [grunt] back to me. I rub their bellies and under their chins. I scratch their ears. I give them treats, and they love me.

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