SACC bans scooters from city sidewalks effective JUne 30th. (San Antonio: legal, transportation)

[Pancho-Villa]

In a month, electric scooter riding won’t be allowed on San Antonio’s sidewalks.
Don’t expect a city-wide crackdown with vigilant scooter police and tough fines, but the San Antonio City Council unanimously approved an amendment to the city’s scooter ordinance Thursday that would ban the dockless vehicles from sidewalks by June 30. Legal ridership will be exclusively on streets, along with bicycles and other traffic.







https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/lo...e-13907124.php

[sapphire]

That can't end well. I see lots of people getting scraped up off the road.

[Azure110]

The scooters are just as quick as the bicycles for the average person unless you Lance Armstrong. I don't see any change here really as far as risk goes. Problem is that the people started using them on the sidewalks and old habits die hard.

[TX-born]

Good, a lot of those scooter riders are reckless on the sidewalks. Working downtown I've seen enough crashes and near misses.

[flashfearless]

Finally some sense has arrived.

[adriver]

Originally Posted by sapphire

That can't end well. I see lots of people getting scraped up off the road.

Yeah, but either they create the potential on the sidewalk, or they are the potential on the street. I don't think they should be able to put other people in danger, when they are the ones choosing to ride those things.

Originally Posted by Azure110

The scooters are just as quick as the bicycles for the average person unless you Lance Armstrong. I don't see any change here really as far as risk goes. Problem is that the people started using them on the sidewalks and old habits die hard.

Unlike a cyclist, you don't need any "personal respect" for the situation. To get on a scooter, you just step on, and you're instantly creating 5x the inertia of a good walker. You just don't respect that momentum/energy when you don't have to put in any effort to do it like a cyclist does.



1. They used to have these scooters in Arizona, and it didn't take long before they completely banned them. I hope they eventually do that here, (not a personal one, but one that is going to be left as trash around the city until someone picks it up behind them).

2. I see these scooters all over the place. On the grass, on the sidewalks, at the parks, at the gas stations, they just litter the city, BUT FOR SOME REASON: I have NEVER seen anyone riding one.

3. These riders may not get fines right away, but it does mean I am now allowed to defend myself on the sidewalk. It means if they ride up on me too close, I might just have to protect myself (or who I am with), by "adjusting their path". It also means if they do hit anyone on the sidewalk, they are immediately going to be 100% at fault.

[Bo]

It seems like this is an instance where state government should step in, since it's a transportation issue. There's no reason these should be banned on the sidewalks of San Antonio and allowed on the sidewalks of Fort Worth, for instance.

[sapphire]

Originally Posted by adriver

Yeah, but either they create the potential on the sidewalk, or they are the potential on the street. I don't think they should be able to put other people in danger, when they are the ones choosing to ride those things.




Unlike a cyclist, you don't need any "personal respect" for the situation. To get on a scooter, you just step on, and you're instantly creating 5x the inertia of a good walker. You just don't respect that momentum/energy when you don't have to put in any effort to do it like a cyclist does.



1. They used to have these scooters in Arizona, and it didn't take long before they completely banned them. I hope they eventually do that here, (not a personal one, but one that is going to be left as trash around the city until someone picks it up behind them).

2. I see these scooters all over the place. On the grass, on the sidewalks, at the parks, at the gas stations, they just litter the city, BUT FOR SOME REASON: I have NEVER seen anyone riding one.

3. These riders may not get fines right away, but it does mean I am now allowed to defend myself on the sidewalk. It means if they ride up on me too close, I might just have to protect myself (or who I am with), by "adjusting their path". It also means if they do hit anyone on the sidewalk, they are immediately going to be 100% at fault.

IF I was going to ride one, I'd choose the sidewalk over the street any day. Have you SEEN how people drive in San Antonio? Either way,without any PPE, they are asking for trouble.

We have a Canal Walk in Indy, and it's loaded with scooter riders. We saw 2 of them (scooters) actually IN the water, though. The riders we did encounter were nearly as rude as the cyclists, who think they are lord and master of the walkways. Rudest people ever. I guess their shorts are too tight.

[steve807]

A fellow I know had an ugly accident on one this past week. Tiny pothole, scooter stopped instantly, broken shoulder.

[supfromthesite]

Originally Posted by Bo

It seems like this is an instance where state government should step in, since it's a transportation issue. There's no reason these should be banned on the sidewalks of San Antonio and allowed on the sidewalks of Fort Worth, for instance.

Why not? I see nothing wrong with local communities coming up with their own laws... The way it should be, imo.