"pet friendly" rentals in SF and the bay area ?? Really?? (San Francisco: apartment complex, tenants)

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by andyadhi01

Pit bulls are dangerous and needs to be banned. But more importantly Pit bull owners are usually stupid and dangerous! So I am not surprised about the landlord's reaction. SF will be a better place without people like you. So don't move here.

Real deep stuff there, adhd.

Since the OP has presented himself as a responsible owner, we can probably exclude such a person from the "usually stupid and dangerous" set. And you hate SF anyway, so what difference would it make if that person is here or not?

[Wry_Martini]

I'm sorry you're having trouble finding a place where you can rent with your 2 dogs.

The bay area is a very difficult place to rent, and it's hard even if you have just one cat or one tiny dog. A lot of landlords decide to not allow pets at all.

While Pit Bulls are on the 'aggressive breed' list and not allowed (which I suspect is an insurance thing, and the landlord has to adhere to this requirement), there's also the issue that both of your dogs are on the large size. I'm not familiar with vizslas and had to google the breed, but most pet-rent agreement I've seen have a 40 lb weight limit, regardless of breed.

[Kurinji]

I feel for you, and I'm an animal lover, but, unfortunately, pit bulls have a seriously bad rep. Try looking for a property that has lots of space for your dogs, maybe a house rental with a large yard.

I believe the dogs mentioned by the above poster were of the Presa Canario breed.

Best of luck to you!

Hah, just noticed that the OP's post was from last year. . .

[silverkris]

Originally Posted by dragontales

I'm not going to get too deep into this pit debate as well. It's far too crazy and emotional for many dog owners. On a personal level I would not own such a breed myself just so that I could eliminate the risk of safety. While I understand that any breed can attack at any given time I would argue that a small dog such as a chihuahua won't have the ability to maul you to death, so to speak, as oppose to a powerful pitbull or pit mix. It's the breeding history. It's the instincts. With that being said I'm sure there are plenty of sweet loving pits out there. I just wouldn't jeopardize my own friends or family.

Coincidentally, a disproportionate number of the dogs at animal shelters are pitbulls and Chihuahuas, because many owners go into wanting these pets without really understanding well what it takes to be a dog owner, and perhaps following a fad or a trend. I think the reasons for many pitbulls being surrendered are fairly well understood.

Chihuahuas? Well, yes, they're small and cute, which makes some folks forget that it's still a DOG, and you gotta treat it like any other dog, with firm discipline and training. I think there's something called "Small Dog Syndrome" that people will tolerate in small toy dogs that isn't not tolerated with larger breeds. So the little Chihuahuas end up developing bad dog behavior because the humans don't expect any better, and eventually many of them end up being surrendered. Which is unfortunate.

[ttocs99]

It's such a shame that Pit Bulls get such a bad reputation. But it's not the breed, it's the owner that causes a viscious dog. Pit Bulls on a whole, are as loving as any breed. And if trained correctly (like any other animal), can be a great family pet. I know this reference may be too out there for some folks, but if you remember the old "Little Rascals" movies from the 30's and 40's, Petey the dog was a Pitt Bull. This dog was around children all day, every day, and nothing bad ever happened to a child due to Petey. Basically most animals are pack animals, and if you train them right, they will follow your lead as the pack leader, and they will be happy to respond well to your leadership.

Hell, they train Grizzly Bears to be in movies. A Grizzly can just swipe his paw and take his trainer's head right off, but they don't, because they've been trained right since being small cubs, and see the trainer as the leader. If all your dog has ever know is receiving cruel behavior, of course they will act out. If all they've ever been trained to do is fight, of course they will always try to be the alpha dog, and atatck anyone/anything that comes near it or it looks upon as a threat.

Treat a Pit Bull with tons of love, and respect, but let it know who's boss and who's in charge, and there will never be a negative incident in it's lifetime. My cousin had an American Bulldog, basically the same jaw of a Pit Bull, but weighed 125 pounds. When it played with his pal, a Golden Retriever, it saw that dog as the pack leader, and was totally submissive though it could have destroyed that retriever. It was trained to play well with others. I remember seeing my 2 year old niece laying on top of him like a bed. No issues or problems ever.

[Ceece]

Originally Posted by ttocs99

It's such a shame that Pit Bulls get such a bad reputation. But it's not the breed, it's the owner that causes a viscious dog. Pit Bulls on a whole, are as loving as any breed. And if trained correctly (like any other animal), can be a great family pet. I know this reference may be too out there for some folks, but if you remember the old "Little Rascals" movies from the 30's and 40's, Petey the dog was a Pitt Bull. This dog was around children all day, every day, and nothing bad ever happened to a child due to Petey. Basically most animals are pack animals, and if you train them right, they will follow your lead as the pack leader, and they will be happy to respond well to your leadership.

Hell, they train Grizzly Bears to be in movies. A Grizzly can just swipe his paw and take his trainer's head right off, but they don't, because they've been trained right since being small cubs, and see the trainer as the leader. If all your dog has ever know is receiving cruel behavior, of course they will act out. If all they've ever been trained to do is fight, of course they will always try to be the alpha dog, and atatck anyone/anything that comes near it or it looks upon as a threat.

Treat a Pit Bull with tons of love, and respect, but let it know who's boss and who's in charge, and there will never be a negative incident in it's lifetime. My cousin had an American Bulldog, basically the same jaw of a Pit Bull, but weighed 125 pounds. When it played with his pal, a Golden Retriever, it saw that dog as the pack leader, and was totally submissive though it could have destroyed that retriever. It was trained to play well with others. I remember seeing my 2 year old niece laying on top of him like a bed. No issues or problems ever.

Seriously fella?

[ttocs99]

Originally Posted by Ceece

Seriously fella?

Does anything I wrote imply that I was joking ? But thanks for asking.

[JennStar]

Why do people with these big dogs live in these little apartments here in the city with no backyard? These poor big dogs have no room, and nowhere to run around. I see this where i live, and I feel sorry for these dogs. These owners don't realize tht big dogs get bored cooped up and will make a mess of the place due to the anxiety of being alone and having nothing to do. They need to be outside and getting exercise for at least 45 minutes a day. I have watched these dog owners walk their dogs just to do their business, not play with them, and then go home so they can get ready to go to work. Then they come home from work, let their dogs out for play then. Little dogs may be easier to take care of, but they still need attention. I have one neighbor who leaves his two little dogs at home all the time, and they bark incessantly. i had to put a note on his door to ask him to do something about the barking all day or all night.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by JennStar

Why do people with these big dogs live in these little apartments here in the city with no backyard? These poor big dogs have no room, and nowhere to run around. I see this where i live, and I feel sorry for these dogs. These owners don't realize tht big dogs get bored cooped up and will make a mess of the place due to the anxiety of being alone and having nothing to do. They need to be outside and getting exercise for at least 45 minutes a day. I have watched these dog owners walk their dogs just to do their business, not play with them, and then go home so they can get ready to go to work. Then they come home from work, let their dogs out for play then. Little dogs may be easier to take care of, but they still need attention. I have one neighbor who leaves his two little dogs at home all the time, and they bark incessantly. i had to put a note on his door to ask him to do something about the barking all day or all night.

Some people insist on having it all, even if it may not be a terribly good idea to pursue such. I would agree, big dogs cooped up in a little SF apt. is a sad circumstance.

[millerz22]

Originally Posted by clongirl

Uh..a pitbull mix just attacked and bit my dog in the face yesterday in the dog park. I have no sympathy for you. Don't move here. In addition...you talk too much.

one dog doesnot represent a whole breed. I wonder if you do the same thing with race too? Smh.