Why are high crime rates excusable for some cities but not for others?

[PixelatedTherapy]

Originally Posted by sav858

Vallejo doesn't have nearly as redeeming qualities as SF and Oakland to make up for the ghettoness and crime.

Affordability, good weather and beautiful architecture aren't enough? And it's still has a pretty good amount of public transport to make up for the lack of BART.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by PixelatedTherapy

Affordability, good weather and beautiful architecture aren't enough? And it's still has a pretty good amount of public transport to make up for the lack of BART.

The only thing it really has over the other two is affordability. SolTrans is a terrible bus system btw.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by PixelatedTherapy

It's like the value of every city in the Bay Area is defined by what San Franciscans think of them. It's absolutely absurd. But in Vallejo's case that may be changing:
Vallejo Housing Market Among Nation’s Hottest, Buyers Quickly Snap Up Bargains « CBS San Francisco

Um, yes. I've been saying for years that Vallejo is a likely great long-term investment. It will turn upwards sharply. It's starting to happen already a bit, as the article points out.

[ketch89]

Vallejo residents who work in SF spend 3 hours each day commuting. Crime and blight are less forgivable when you're sacrificing so much time to be there.

[boulder2015]

Originally Posted by ketch89

Vallejo residents who work in SF spend 3 hours each day commuting. Crime and blight are less forgivable when you're sacrificing so much time to be there.

Yep. And the crime rate in vallejo is twice the national average. And, yes, i should have been more specific and said something like "core bay area refugees" as yes i know vallejo is on the bay. But thats the point it is so damn far away it feels like a completely different area. Who would want such a long commute unless they really love the ferry? ( i hear "mixed" reviews of the daily ferry grind).