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Old 08-14-2017, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Nashville TN, Cincinnati, OH
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The driver was a big Hitler and Nazi supporter and was from my home state Ohio but we do not claim him, hope he gets the death penalty, he needs to get the chair.
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Park City, UT
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As many know I hate what parts of the far left are doing with their aggressive style of protesting and rioting as well as those encouraging violence against police officers. With that being said, it is insignificant in size compared to organized white supremacists.
The KKK is practically a dead organization in the U.S.
The neo nazi organizations are paltry.

Unless you meant to say that Trump supporters and conservatives are all white supremacists?

The white supremacy thing is just another leftist bogey man that democrats use to scare minority voters into supproting their party and their failed policies which have ruined cities like Detroit & Baltimore.

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I believe in free speech, but I also believe these people should not be allowed to block traffic to express their right to free speech, I do not think police should have to escort them for their protection and I believe the second any person says anything that could encourage that encourages violence to others, it should be immediately shut down, anyone resisting sent to prison.
In this case the alt-right marchers had a permit to march, the antifa and other counter groups did not have a permit, and were blocking traffic. Despite having a permit to march, the police started randomly shooting tear gas and pepper spray at people for no apparent reason.

I usually support cops, but in this case they instigated this situation and caused much of the chaos.
They even pushed a group of alt-right marchers into a group of counter protesters. Really bad policing.
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Park City, UT
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The driver was a big Hitler and Nazi supporter and was from my home state Ohio but we do not claim him, hope he gets the death penalty, he needs to get the chair.
Speculation.

Is every pot smoking college kid that wears a Che Guevara shirt a violent marxist terrorist?
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:00 AM
 
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The KKK is practically a dead organization in the U.S.
The neo nazi organizations are paltry.

Unless you meant to say that Trump supporters and conservatives are all white supremacists?

The white supremacy thing is just another leftist bogey man that democrats use to scare minority voters into supproting their party and their failed policies which have ruined cities like Detroit & Baltimore.



In this case the alt-right marchers had a permit to march, the antifa and other counter groups did not have a permit, and were blocking traffic. Despite having a permit to march, the police started randomly shooting tear gas and pepper spray at people for no apparent reason.

I usually support cops, but in this case they instigated this situation and caused much of the chaos.
They even pushed a group of alt-right marchers into a group of counter protesters. Really bad policing.
I voted for Trump and I am a minority, but to say white supremacy people are just a hoax, it's not true because I've encountered them before. They are not a hoax and while they vote for Republicans (when they do vote), the GOP has always kept a distance from them and denounced them. Meanwhile, the crazies that have formed on the left, such as the hardcore BLM people and rioters, the Democrats have seemed to accept them or at the very least defended them.

If the GOP were ever to do the same with white supremacists (which I find are worse just because they are pretty much black and white, where as the hardcore liberals are more in a gray area), I could never support the party. I've been happy with Trump so far, but like I said, if Republicans start defending these kinds of people, that will be the end of my support of the GOP. Likewise, if Democrats keep choosing to defend law breakers, I won't support them either and will probably just start sitting out of elections, besides local ballot initiatives. I hope Trump comes out today and specifically denounces white supremacists.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:07 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I voted for Trump and I am a minority, but to say white supremacy people are just a hoax, it's not true because I've encountered them before. They are not a hoax and while they vote for Republicans (when they do vote), the GOP has always kept a distance from them and denounced them. Meanwhile, the crazies that have formed on the left, such as the hardcore BLM people and rioters, the Democrats have seemed to accept them or at the very least defended them.

If the GOP were ever to do the same with white supremacists (which I find are worse just because they are pretty much black and white, where as the hardcore liberals are more in a gray area), I could never support the party. I've been happy with Trump so far, but like I said, if Republicans start defending these kinds of people, that will be the end of my support of the GOP. Likewise, if Democrats keep choosing to defend law breakers, I won't support them either and will probably just start sitting out of elections, besides local ballot initiatives. I hope Trump comes out today and specifically denounces white supremacists.
That is not true. If you said "BLM" sure but you specified "hardcore" and "rioters", what democratic politicians have supported or defended rioting?
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:14 AM
 
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That is not true. If you said "BLM" sure but you specified "hardcore" and "rioters", what democratic politicians have supported or defended rioting?
There are BLM supporters who aren't racist or prejudice, but the hardcore ones who made chants like pigs in a blanket fry em like bacon or just recently, cops and the klan go hand in hand... there was no formal announcement to denounce them. Most Democrats defended them or ignored them. When it comes to rioters, there were many Democrats who defended their actions and blamed the system for creating it.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:18 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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There are BLM supporters who aren't racist or prejudice, but the hardcore ones who made chants like pigs in a blanket fry em like bacon or just recently, cops and the klan go hand in hand... there was no formal announcement to denounce them. Most Democrats defended them or ignored them. When it comes to rioters, there were many Democrats who defended their actions and blamed the system for creating it.
So what democratic politicians defended rioting?
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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SAD, the far right is so violent!
Violence is wrong, but the Far Left is more violent. Look at BLM, Antifa, Che Guevara, Castro, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. All extremely violent, and destructive.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:32 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Violence is wrong, but the Far Left is more violent. Look at BLM, Antifa, Che Guevara, Castro, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. All extremely violent, and destructive.
Talking about Murica genius. And no the far right is far more violent and always has been.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:42 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I'm also Korean and my partner is Chinese, we both don't agree with BLM or white supremacists.

We believe ALL LIVES MATTER... White, Yellow, Black, Brown, OTHER

If the BLM movement allowed others to carry signs such as Asian Lives Matter, Hispanic Lives Matter, White Lives Matter... I'd feel differently. Likewise, if BLM would denounce those who riot, call police murderers etc, I'd feel differently. BLM is a watered down version of White Supremacists. As I mentioned before, there are some good people in BLM, while there are NO good people among White Supremacists, but still neither I support...if I had to choose the lesser evil, it would easily be BLM, but it would be the lesser evil, not good vs bad. Extremism in either direction is awful. As an Asian American, I've experienced the most prejudice and racism from Blacks, which is why I don't feel their lives are more valuable than others. My partner who was born in American, but spent most of her life in Asia had the same experience when she moved back here in high school. The Black students bullied her and her cousins the most than any other race at school. All Lives Matter!
My god that is not what the term "Black Lives Matter" is trying to say or indicate.

So what democratic politician defended rioting by BLM?
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