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Old 08-28-2016, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Pleasanton, CA
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So you feel that density is not desirable? Most of us who prefer big cities prefer them because of density. Downtown San Jose is a dense neighborhood. I loved living there, it was great! I can't wait to go back.

I'm not sure exactly how big Times Square in Manahattan is. But downtown San Jose is basically from White/Stockton street (it turns into white on one side and Stockton on the other) to 12th street. So that's what, 13 or 14 blocks wide? Call it 15 for a round number? Times Square appears to be comparable in size.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Times_Square

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_San_Jose
You missed my point. Downtown San Jose is not very big, hence why it's not all that surprising that all the amenities the topper is referring to would most likely be close to each other.

I like downtown San Jose too. It's hugely improved compared to what it was even 10 years ago and is still getting better. The comparison with Manhattan is absurd in my opinion though.
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Old 08-28-2016, 09:08 PM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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You missed my point. Downtown San Jose is not very big, hence why it's not all that surprising that all the amenities the topper is referring to would most likely be close to each other.
Well, I was trying to find an estimate of the size of Times Square in blocks and I had some difficulty. Downtown San Jose might be larger than you realize, though. The western edge of San Jose Diridon CalTrain Station is the western edge of downtown, and the eastern edge would be just before the start of Naglee Park (after Naglee Park comes ESSJ, East Side San Jose). So that's like 15 blocks or something like that.

That's roughly comparable to the size of this Downtown Paris Walking Tour.

Paris Walking Tour: Downtown -- National Geographic's Ultimate City Guides

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I like downtown San Jose too. It's hugely improved compared to what it was even 10 years ago and is still getting better. The comparison with Manhattan is absurd in my opinion though.
Well, it's different from Manhattan. NYC is also different from London, and London is different from Paris. But if you're saying that Silicon Valley is therefore not a Great City because it is different from London, I disagree.

London, Paris, NYC and Silicon Valley are Great Cities. All have a profound influence on the world. All are places were people fly TO, rather than flying over.
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Old 08-29-2016, 01:17 PM
 
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Well, I was trying to find an estimate of the size of Times Square in blocks and I had some difficulty. Downtown San Jose might be larger than you realize, though. The western edge of San Jose Diridon CalTrain Station is the western edge of downtown, and the eastern edge would be just before the start of Naglee Park (after Naglee Park comes ESSJ, East Side San Jose). So that's like 15 blocks or something like that.

That's roughly comparable to the size of this Downtown Paris Walking Tour.

Paris Walking Tour: Downtown -- National Geographic's Ultimate City Guides
What, what? Who said anything about Paris? What relevance does a Paris walking tour have to the OP's question?

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Well, it's different from Manhattan. NYC is also different from London, and London is different from Paris. But if you're saying that Silicon Valley is therefore not a Great City because it is different from London, I disagree.

London, Paris, NYC and Silicon Valley are Great Cities. All have a profound influence on the world. All are places were people fly TO, rather than flying over.
No one said anything about Silicon Valley not being a "Great City." I think you're confusing your threads.

Not sure why you're so passionate about constantly defending and building up San Jose in multiple threads. Are you trying to convince yourself too?

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Old 08-29-2016, 05:21 PM
 
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What, what? Who said anything about Paris? What relevance does a Paris walking tour have to the OP's question?



No one said anything about Silicon Valley not being a "Great City." I think you're confusing your threads.

Not sure why you're so passionate about constantly defending and building up San Jose in multiple threads. Are you trying to convince yourself too?
Silicon Valley is also not a city.
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Old 08-29-2016, 05:27 PM
 
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Silicon Valley is also not a city.
Yeah, I avoided mentioning that since it's been addressed in another thread.
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Old 08-29-2016, 10:13 PM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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What, what? Who said anything about Paris? What relevance does a Paris walking tour have to the OP's question?
Comparing the sizes of downtown areas.

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Not sure why you're so passionate about constantly defending and building up San Jose in multiple threads. Are you trying to convince yourself too?
I'm not sure what you're talking about. You realize that I am not "the topper", right?

Why would I have to defend Silicon Valley? You do realize that the technologies that have changed the world profoundly in the past 50 years were invented here, right? And we continue to drive adoption of it? So how would Silicon Valley need to be "defended"? This is a desirable area. People want to come here for jobs, and they stay for the culture.
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Old 08-29-2016, 10:15 PM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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Silicon Valley is also not a city.
In this context, Silicon Valley is a city. Silicon Valley does not include San Mateo, Menlo Park, etc. It is Santa Clara County. And all the small towns here in Silicon Valley are effectively suburbs of San Jose. So yes, it is a city, in this context. Much the same way that if someone says "Los Angeles is a great city", it implies that the surrounding suburbs are included, and if someone says "London is a great city", places like Greenwhich are included in that phrase.

Just speaking as someone who actually grew up here, as opposed to coming here for work and leaving after achieving the high salary they wanted.
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Old 08-30-2016, 01:21 PM
 
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In this context, Silicon Valley is a city. Silicon Valley does not include San Mateo, Menlo Park, etc. It is Santa Clara County. And all the small towns here in Silicon Valley are effectively suburbs of San Jose. So yes, it is a city, in this context. Much the same way that if someone says "Los Angeles is a great city", it implies that the surrounding suburbs are included, and if someone says "London is a great city", places like Greenwhich are included in that phrase.

Just speaking as someone who actually grew up here, as opposed to coming here for work and leaving after achieving the high salary they wanted.
There is no context in which Silicon Valley is a city. It is a region. It is not a city.

LA is both a city AND a region. Your analogy doesn't work. Please. Stop.


Also, not including Menlo Park...lol. OKkkkkkkkkkk...A huge chunk of that VC money and "Silicon Valley" companies are located outside of Silicon Valley then.

You are so ridiculous.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/347/6222/606.full
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In 2015, MIT researchers developed a novel method for measuring which towns are home to startups with higher growth potential. This defines Silicon Valley to center on the municipalities of Menlo Park, Mountain View, Palo Alto, and Sunnyvale.

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Old 08-30-2016, 01:38 PM
 
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Comparing the sizes of downtown areas.
Yes, but OP wasn't considering a move to Paris.

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I'm not sure what you're talking about. You realize that I am not "the topper", right?
Yes.

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Why would I have to defend Silicon Valley? You do realize that the technologies that have changed the world profoundly in the past 50 years were invented here, right? And we continue to drive adoption of it? So how would Silicon Valley need to be "defended"? This is a desirable area. People want to come here for jobs, and they stay for the culture.
Correct. Those things are obvious, so it doesn't need to be defended. Yet here we are...
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Old 08-30-2016, 02:17 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Well, I was trying to find an estimate of the size of Times Square in blocks and I had some difficulty. Downtown San Jose might be larger than you realize, though. The western edge of San Jose Diridon CalTrain Station is the western edge of downtown, and the eastern edge would be just before the start of Naglee Park (after Naglee Park comes ESSJ, East Side San Jose). So that's like 15 blocks or something like that.

That's roughly comparable to the size of this Downtown Paris Walking Tour.

Paris Walking Tour: Downtown -- National Geographic's Ultimate City Guides



Well, it's different from Manhattan. NYC is also different from London, and London is different from Paris. But if you're saying that Silicon Valley is therefore not a Great City because it is different from London, I disagree.

London, Paris, NYC and Silicon Valley are Great Cities. All have a profound influence on the world. All are places were people fly TO, rather than flying over.

I think you are underestimating the size of New York. I grew up in the city and I can assure you Downtown New York is a lot more than just Times Square (which isn't even downtown, it's midtown). Basically most of Manhattan (and parts of Brooklyn and Queens) is what would be considered "downtown" in other cities. What I'm saying is that New York City is HUGE, and what you see in movies and TV is a very small fraction of it. San Jose is in no way comparable in terms of amenities, although it is a fine city in its own right.
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