08-12-2010, 10:16 PM
Location: Ohio/Sarasota
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So how can anyone rationalize making it illegal to NOT wear a seatbelt but make it legal NOT to have to wear a helmet when riding a motorcycle? Let me clarify this by saying that I choose to wear my seatbelt for safety reasons, not because it is illegal not to. If I rode a motorcycle I would wear a helmet. What I am asking is what goes through the head of a politician to say "everyone should wear seatbelts" and at the same time say "helmets should be voluntary"? I do not understand.
08-12-2010, 10:21 PM
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i dunno - i think it's insane! ok, don't make it a law but why would you want to ride anything that fast without a helmet. i know it's hot here folks but at least wear jeans and boots when you ride!! maybe it's natural selection at work...
08-13-2010, 12:04 AM
Location: sittin happy in the sun :-)
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i rode motorcycles for many years and raced them for 5 or 6. I can tell you falling off is not pleasant. i have a nice scar on one elbow where the skin was worn away very deep even through racing leathers. it makes me cringe when i see people riding wearing flip flops, shorts or sleeveless Tees, but no helmet -sorry but one crash and the odds are you will be a dribbling cabbage for the rest of your life IF you survive.
08-13-2010, 08:08 AM
Location: Where the sun always shines..
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I agree completely, but here is my persepective. Im not justifying it at all- I think it should be mandatory for sure. However, a seatbelt can and most likely will save you in the event of an accident. Keep in mind also, cars are much bigger, and an accident often means something minor. Now, a motorcycle accident? Chances are a helmet will not save you anyway. It could prevent serious injury in the case of a minor accident, but most of them are major from what I know. When I see people riding with no helmets it makes me crazy, and when they are barefoot, or in a bathing suit?? What are they thinking!!
08-13-2010, 08:42 AM
Location: englewood
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thats why they are nicknamed "organ donors".
08-13-2010, 12:59 PM
Location: Punta Gorda and Maryland
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The likelihood of survival if you have a serious accident and don't wear a helmet is very low - so you're cost to the local jurisdiction is less burdensome than if you are in an accident and you are in a car without a seat belt. You are more likely to survive in a car without a seatbelt, but you are more likely to eventually become a burden on the jurisdiction, and society. I think that is an unfortunate thought process that goes on when they vote on this matter.
08-13-2010, 01:13 PM
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I never raced or rode motorcycles but I was a mechanic for one that did, got to be 3d in world championship at one point. He crashed at a later stage, hit a tree with his head, wearing a helmet of course, and even though he was a vegteable in a coma for a long time he eventually regained most of his facilities through the excellent, and expensive care, provided to him. Economically being an organ donor would have made sense.
08-13-2010, 02:55 PM
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I currently live in Illinois, but will be relocating to the Sarasota area. It's my choice to NOT wear a helmet when I ride. I am an active member of ABATE and we fight for our rights. We don't want some non-riding politician making our decisions. I am fully aware of what could happen by not wearing a helmet. I'm also aware of what CAN happen when you do wear a helmet. The seatbelt law doesn't make sense to me either. It should be a personal choice. I'm sure alot of you will take this completely the wrong way, but it's my opinion and I'm intitled to it. I should clarify though that I am a Harley rider and I don't ride the rice burners. Yes, there is a huge difference.
08-13-2010, 03:34 PM
Location: Punta Gorda and Maryland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
JohnInChicago
I currently live in Illinois, but will be relocating to the Sarasota area. It's my choice to NOT wear a helmet when I ride. I am an active member of ABATE and we fight for our rights. We don't want some non-riding politician making our decisions. I am fully aware of what could happen by not wearing a helmet. I'm also aware of what CAN happen when you do wear a helmet. The seatbelt law doesn't make sense to me either. It should be a personal choice. I'm sure alot of you will take this completely the wrong way, but it's my opinion and I'm intitled to it. I should clarify though that I am a Harley rider and I don't ride the rice burners. Yes, there is a huge difference.
Well you have a vote opportunity to choose to vote for a riding politician, but I'm not sure that that vote will have much effect.
I have a question though, who is going to vote to support you and your family if someone cuts you off and you're not properly protected. I understand both view points, and the freedom of choice, and feel that sometimes wearing a helmet can be overkill, but sometimes IMO it is a smart thing and some rules should apply. If I were
forced to take a stand, I would side with the rider's choice.
That said, whenever I've voted for a politician because of his stance on the helmet law, I have never worried in the slighted that he might vote for or against a helmet law. That is so far down the list for me that the pinging light on you cell phone would be more significant as an issue, and you're hundreds of miles away.
08-13-2010, 08:42 PM
Location: Ohio/Sarasota
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Oobie119
I agree completely, but here is my persepective. Im not justifying it at all- I think it should be mandatory for sure. However, a seatbelt can and most likely will save you in the event of an accident. Keep in mind also, cars are much bigger, and an accident often means something minor. Now, a motorcycle accident? Chances are a helmet will not save you anyway. It could prevent serious injury in the case of a minor accident, but most of them are major from what I know. When I see people riding with no helmets it makes me crazy, and when they are barefoot, or in a bathing suit?? What are they thinking!!
If that's the case then we should ban motorcycles.
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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