Red Tide that bad??? (Miami, Sarasota: cost of, budget, retire)

[beach43ofus]

Who exclaimed this?

“We fill fight red tide. We will fight toxic blue green algae. We will fight discharges from Lake Okeechobee. We will fight for our beaches. We will fight to restore the Everglades and we won’t let the foot-draggers stand in our way,” @#$%&* told the crowd."

[craigiri]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

The Dude on Lido told me today that respiratory on Lido is slight, but up by Coquina Key and Anna Maria Island in Manatee County it's intense due to wind direction.

Points South of Lido are pristine.

The Dude on Siesta Key was happy as a clam.

The dude should have watched TV where they are interviewing folks from abroad who are getting their first big whiffs.

My take continues to be that the real economic hits will be later...they may even be ignored because a lot of people (the inland empires, developers there, etc.).....for example, no one will notice if property values near the water only rise by 5%, whereas they may have risen by 10. Lots of businesses close anyway...so who can assign the reason?

This has always been the way things work with environmental stuff. Cancer caused by various pollution has rarely been paid for by the polluter because it happens 10-25 years after exposure and you cannot prove that "this particular molecule" that came from the polluter caused this cancer. But, still, it does and it did.

The Blame Game seems silly at this point. If we can reverse 100% of the stuff Scott gutted we'll be well on our way. Maybe a group will put something on the ballot. In any case it will take a decade or more to get to an even slightly better place. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't start.

Thinking of that...I'm going to join and/or donate to some of the good orgs what might do something like a ballot question...

[beach43ofus]

Craigiri said:

"The dude should have watched TV where they are interviewing folks from abroad who are getting their first big whiffs."

The first folks from abroad that got whiffs were in the 1600's...Spanish explorers to this area...pre-civilization

https://www.heraldtribune.com/photog...813009987/PH/1

"Cancer caused by various pollution has rarely been paid for by the polluter because it happens 10-25 years after exposure and you cannot prove that "this particular molecule" that came from the polluter caused this cancer. But, still, it does and it did. "

wrong again, read this:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...uit/962297002/

"The Blame Game seems silly at this point. If we can reverse 100% of the stuff Scott gutted we'll be well on our way. Maybe a group will put something on the ballot. In any case it will take a decade or more to get to an even slightly better place. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't start."

You are right on this time, please send your contributions to our new Governor Ron DeSantis:

https://www.tampabay.com/florida-pol...as-water-woes/

[beach43ofus]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

Who exclaimed this?

“We fill fight red tide. We will fight toxic blue green algae. We will fight discharges from Lake Okeechobee. We will fight for our beaches. We will fight to restore the Everglades and we won’t let the foot-draggers stand in our way,” @#$%&* told the crowd."

Nobody has told me who said these things??????? Dont you read the news or listen to the local radio?

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

Who exclaimed this?

“We fill fight red tide. We will fight toxic blue green algae. We will fight discharges from Lake Okeechobee. We will fight for our beaches. We will fight to restore the Everglades and we won’t let the foot-draggers stand in our way,” @#$%&* told the crowd."

Just guessing that it's Ron DeSantis. Talk is cheap, and in this case, perhaps futile. Get back to us when DeSantis presents an actual plan explaining who will foot the bill for a clean-up.

See posts 932, 937, and especially post 943 in this thread.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/flori...trophe-94.html

You apparently would have taken great joy in rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic while telling everyone not to worry, everything will be fine.

[beach43ofus]

DeSantis signs order to fight algae, red tide; calls for resignation of board members of South Florida Water Management District

Newly sworn in Governor of Florida taking BOLD action on water quality in our State. Let's all support Governor DeSantis by writing his office in support of his environmental actions.

[kombuchaluchador]

But he shouldn't need to do this, right beach? Purely natural phenomenon that's been happening for several months longer than it should..."naturally".

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

DeSantis signs order to fight algae, red tide; calls for resignation of board members of South Florida Water Management District

Newly sworn in Governor of Florida taking BOLD action on water quality in our State. Let's all support Governor DeSantis by writing his office in support of his environmental actions.

The article discusses $2.5 billion that DeSantis says is needed to fund his clean-up. DeSantis didn't say where he would get this money....

DeSantis also wants to protect Florida communities from sea level rise, according to the article, but made no mention of transitioning away from fossil fuel consumption. Without a global transition away from fossil fuel consumption, Florida is doomed, and likely within a few decades rather than the several decades if not a few centuries assumed by many authorities.

Where will the money come from to build sea protections and pumping stations, let alone to maintain and operate such systems?

BOLD action? NOT.

[beach43ofus]

Originally Posted by kombuchaluchador

But he shouldn't need to do this, right beach? Purely natural phenomenon that's been happening for several months longer than it should..."naturally".

Yes, Red Tide is naturally occurring and has been since at least the 1600's as recorded in written history by Spanish explorers to our area, but not the green slime eminating from Lake O. That was/is preventable.

Releasing the Green Slime into the seas allows the Red Tide to spread towards shore and gunks up our bays and intracoastal waterways.

Governor DeSantis's plan is exactly what I've been posting on C-D for months now. Clean/treat the Big Ag runoff (make them pay for it) BEFORE it gets into Lake O, then treat it again BEFORE releasing it into the 2 channels leading to the Gulf and Atlantic. I also think once its treated, more and more should be released into the Everglades to be filtered there as it flows South to the sea as it had been done for millions of years before the "Save The Everglades" humans messed with mother nature.

Thank heaven for Governor DeSantis, President Trump, and the last Congress for teaming up to solve these issues...finally. This should have been done by those who preceeded them.

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

Yes, Red Tide is naturally occurring and has been since at least the 1600's as recorded in written history by Spanish explorers to our area, but not the green slime eminating from Lake O. That was/is preventable.

Releasing the Green Slime into the seas allows the Red Tide to spread towards shore and gunks up our bays and intracoastal waterways.

Governor DeSantis's plan is exactly what I've been posting on C-D for months now. Clean/treat the Big Ag runoff (make them pay for it) BEFORE it gets into Lake O, then treat it again BEFORE releasing it into the 2 channels leading to the Gulf and Atlantic. I also think once its treated, more and more should be released into the Everglades to be filtered there as it flows South to the sea as it had been done for millions of years before the "Save The Everglades" humans messed with mother nature.

Thank heaven for Governor DeSantis, President Trump, and the last Congress for teaming up to solve these issues...finally. This should have been done by those who preceeded them.

The DeSantis environmental policy is suicidal. See post 945 in this thread.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/flori...trophe-95.html

Pretending that man-made climate change is a hoax, as is the policy of DeSantis, Trump, many Republicans in Congress, and you, dooms Florida to a cataclysmic and perhaps yet avoidable future.

Until DeSantis announces funding sources to combat toxic algal blooms, including red tide, and regulatory and legislative changes to reduce septic tank pollution, his environmental stance remains no different than the catastrophic environmental policy of the Rick Scott administration -- all words and no action to improve the environment.