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Old 06-28-2011, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Village of Patchogue, NY
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Originally Posted by NJBest View Post
48÷2(9+3) is NOT the same as 48÷(2(9+3)).
I don't follow. Explain to me what you just said in function form
2(9+3)≠(2(9+3))

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Originally Posted by NJBest View Post
48÷2(9+3) =48÷x(9+3)
48÷2(9+3) =48÷x*(9+3)
48÷x(9+3) =48*(1/x)*(9+3)
48÷x(9+3) =48*9(1/x)+3(1/x)
You keep breaking the 2 away from the () with that darn *. Why!? The * is not there in the first place!

You have a typo but I follow what you and everyone else who got 288 are doing - you just did the arithmetic from L to R. I get that. I did that oo, but the only difference is I didn't put a darn * after the 2.

Lets try this, divide everything by 2,
48÷2(9+3)=288
24÷(9+3)=144
24÷(12)=144
2≠144

You can't tell me that you would take a function like
2(9+3)=24
Which simply translates to
(2(9+3))/2 = 24/2
and break that into
2/2 * (9+3)/2 = 24/2 !?

One more - Riddle me this. if you let (9+3)=x, you get
48÷2(9+3) = 48÷2x
48÷2x ≠ 24x
48÷2x = 48/2x
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Old 06-28-2011, 01:22 PM
 
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Originally Posted by kayo_michael View Post
I don't follow. Explain to me what you just said in function form
2(9+3)≠(2(9+3))



You keep breaking the 2 away from the () with that darn *. Why!? The * is not there in the first place!

You have a typo but I follow what you and everyone else who got 288 are doing - you just did the arithmetic from L to R. I get that. I did that oo, but the only difference is I didn't put a darn * after the 2.
Do you really not understand that

β÷ϑ(x) = β÷ϑ * (x) ?

Let's say you have 1÷2(9+3) and replace (9+3) with (x):

1÷2(9+3)
1÷2(x)
1/2(x)
.5(x)
.5(9+3)
.5(12)
6

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Do the same here

48÷2(9+3)
48÷2(x)
48/2(x)
24(x)
24(9+3)
288


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The () make a difference. Go to google and type in 1/3pi and 1/3(pi). Notice you will get two different answers? 1/3(x) is not the same as 1/3x . Riddle Solved.
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Old 06-28-2011, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Village of Patchogue, NY
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Originally Posted by NJBest View Post
Do you really not understand that

β÷ϑ(x) = β÷ϑ * (x) ?
No they are NOT the same.
are you saying that 2x is the same as 2*x?

2x÷2x=1
2*x÷2*x=x^2
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by charles View Post
saw this somewhere else. What is the answer? (there was no math forum so i placed it here.)
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48|2(9+3) =
_______-__
48|24

=.05 ?
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Originally Posted by Brian.Pearson View Post
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48|2(9+3) =
_______-__
48|24

=.05 ?

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Old 06-28-2011, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Texas
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LOL! I've pretty much moved stuff on the left, to the right. Get it? That's why I tried to make the vertical thing and the line at the top. It's how I learned to do division.
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Old 07-02-2011, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Let a=48, b=2, and c=(9+3).

How much is:

a_
bc

which is an expression perfectly identical with a÷bc

The answer is 2.

The only expression that would come out to 288 is (a/b)c

Without THAT set of parentheses, it doen't work, and that set of parentheses is not in the original expression, so is not called for as an operation.

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Old 07-02-2011, 05:46 PM
 
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Originally Posted by kayo_michael View Post
2.

Don't want to read through 20 pages of comments...

I have an Aerospace Engineering Degree from an ABET accredited University, and a Minor in Mathematics.
No offense, but those who got 288 do their math at a grade school level.
Substitue 2 for x, then solve it that way.
48÷2(9+3) =48÷x(9+3)
48÷x(9+3) =48÷9x+3x
48÷9x+3x=48÷12x
48÷12x=48÷12(2)
48÷12(2)=48÷24
=2

On a serious note, who ever came up with this poorly written equation deserves to be smacked in the face with a calculus book.

I'm going to blow some minds or **** some grade school mathematicians off by saying 12÷2÷2=12.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Isn't that wrong?... I just did that in my head and got 24(12)=288.

That equation is middle school math... at least private school, where I learned.

If the teacher tought you that, he is making it harder than it actually is.
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Old 07-02-2011, 06:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jtur88 View Post
Let a=48, b=2, and c=(9+3).

How much is:

a_
bc

which is an expression perfectly identical with a÷bc

The answer is 2.

The only expression that would come out to 288 is (a/b)c

Without THAT set of parentheses, it doen't work, and that set of parentheses is not in the original expression, so is not called for as an operation.
Where you make a mistake is that

a_
bc

does not equal a÷bc

a÷bc = (a/b)c = a/bc, simply because you divide before you multiply here.
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Old 07-03-2011, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Originally Posted by NJBest View Post
Where you make a mistake is that

a_
bc

does not equal a÷bc

a÷bc = (a/b)c = a/bc, simply because you divide before you multiply here.
That's why the sign ÷ is never NEVER NEVER used in Algebra. The horizontal bar is the ONLY algebraic symbol ever used to indicate division in an algebraic expression.

Please explain why you do not divide before you multiply in the expression:

a_
bc


Why did YOU use parentheses in writing (a/b)c ? Because you HAVE to use parentheses, in order to distinguish it from a/bc. Without the parentheses, which even you said need to be there to clarify the problem, a÷bc IS the same as
a_
bc

Parentheses, absolutely imperative for clarity, is what makes it different from 48÷2x9+3. (which would be 219, by the way, not 2, and not 288).

The simple truth is, if any engineer or mathemetician ever wrote an algebraic expressiin with a ÷ sign in it, without clarifying parentheses, it would be thrown back in his face with derision, and that is where the problem lies in trying to resolve this question. It's like somebody asking what the word "gawt" means in English, and running to 212 posts arguing about whether it is a verb or a noun, without ever addressing whether it is an acceptable English spelling of anything at all.

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