are Seattle's suburbs more politically sane? (Bellevue, Redmond: good schools, to live, safety)

[MondoTime]

Originally Posted by spider99

What turned Seattle super liberal IMO was the music seen in the 90's. Droves of people flooded into Seattle because they thought it was going to be like that move Singles. There was a huge bump in population there as a result of pop culture sorta like San Francisco in the late 60's or Los Angeles in the Early 80's. The 90's is when I remember Seattle proper really changing politically.

Uh, Seattle’s population increased by NINE PERCENT during the entire decade of the 1990’s.


And just how much music do you actually see anyway??

[jakebarnes]

Originally Posted by Cinema Cat

And some people disagree with the SPLC. Will you tell the SPLC to get over it?

Why do you think the SPLC categorizes certain people and organizations (including Christian groups) as "hate groups"? Is it merely to "express their opinion"? Yet the SPLC does not publish opinions pieces. Instead it slanders Christians with crude, broad strokes, lumping them together with Nazis.



Ah, the "fragile" smear. Yet it's the Left (including the SPLC) who's calling to ban people from social media. So I guess it's the Left who are so "fragile" they can't bear hearing contrary opinions.

And I've repeatedly said I don't mind hearing other opinions. (Which statement you ignore.) It's the Left's inclination toward vandalism and violence that upsets me. Am I "fragile" because I don't want to be physically attacked?

I don't have an opinion on the SPLC and frankly I don't care about them. But I think they have the right to exist. Have they, or their supporters, come to your house and caused vandalism or violence? You realize Christians also have a myriad of political views and philosophies? Not everyone is an evangelical Christian.

As far as being fragile, you are the one on here complaining endlessly that some very liberal groups have beliefs that you don't share. I guess having a persecution complex is your thing. There are many groups that have beliefs I don't share either. WELCOME TO AMERICA! Love it or leave it.

[MondoTime]

Originally Posted by Seacove

The last time Washington had a Republican governor was in 1981.
.

LOL Guess again!!


Why bother to post when all you accomplish is proving to others that you have no idea what you’re writing about??

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by MondoTime

LOL Guess again!!

Why bother to post when all you accomplish is proving to others that you have no idea what you’re writing about??

It appears the last Washington state governor that was also Republican was:

John Dennis Spellman Republican 01/14/1981 1981 - 1985 12/29/1926

He lost re-election so the election was 1980. Are we quibbling between the months of the November election and January when he took office?

This is according to:
https://www.sos.wa.gov/library/washi...governors.aspx
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._of_Washington

And this about John Dennis Spellman:

"Spellman was elected governor in 1980 amid large gains for Republicans across the country. During his tenure, the Washington State economy suffered due to the early 1980s recession. Spellman was defeated in his reelection campaign in 1984. As of 2018, he is the last Republican to have held the office of Governor of Washington state."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Spellman

[MondoTime]

.... so does that mean you’ve now altered your original statement by a number of years??


So which story are you sticking to??

[dozerbear]

Originally Posted by Seacove

They aren't Washingtonians either. It appears the videos posted are Portland and California. The topic is Seattle.

And with all due respect, someone living in Central Washington is probably not going to be as familiar with the Seattle metro.

I posted several incidents in the Northwest where anything that started was the reaction of right wing action such as the 3%ers, "Patriot Prayer", Proud Boys or whatever. A Trump speechwriter actually spoke at a white nationalist conference. Their actions three days ago were, ironically, "to protest against Left Wing violence". Now please explain how that works.

"Fresh off a disorderly rally in Portland, Joey Gibson and his far-right political group Patriot Prayer are on their way to Seattle. The group has a permit to bring their free speech and guns to City Hall Plaza next Saturday, August 18, with a rally they are calling "Liberty or Death - Rally Against Left Wing Violence."

Gibson, a Republican Senate candidate in Washington, has a track record of provoking intense counter-protests at his rallies. The far-right group Proud Boys are closely aligned with Gibson and extremists have been attracted to the Republican Senate candidate, including the white supremacist that allegedly killed two people in Portland last year."

"Matt Marshall, the organizer of the upcoming rally in Seattle and a member of the Washington chapter of the 3 Percenters, a far-right armed conservative group, said he expects a few hundred members of his group will attend the rally. He said some of the attendees will likely be armed.

“Since it is a gun initiative I’m sure some people will be exercising their second amendment rights,” Marshall said."

Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys Are Rallying in Seattle on August 18
How should Seattle respond?
https://www.thestranger.com/slog/201...e-on-august-18

The right wing groups also attract white supremacists.

Left-wing counterprotest groups, including Organized Workers for Labor Solidarity, Radical Women and the Freedom Socialist Party, are planning to stage an afternoon rally to "unite against fascism."

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...ntown-seattle/

Now, feel free to ignore all that. Both points of view probably answer the OP's question.

The point of those videos was to show who was actually being violent, and it's always the so called "antifascists". And so what if some of them were armed? The city gave them a permit for the rally, open carry is legal in Washington, and they didn't cause any problems.

Marshall, in his Facebook posting, said that he does not want any white supremacists at the Saturday rally, and that he does not want violence or a clash with left-wing protesters.

Marshall made it clear he didn't want any white supremacists there.

For all the talk that the Patriot Prayer folks were violent, intimidating, white supremacists — they were the side that wasn’t acting violent, intimidating or hateful. And I heard some try to calmly talk to Antifa to find common ground. They were insulted and shouted down.

Antifa got violent, hurled insults, and threatened violence. They say they stand for tolerance and aim to speak out against division, while acting like hooligans.

Rantz: Antifa protesters ask 'fascist' cops to break up peaceful protest

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by dozerbear

The point of those videos was to show who was actually being violent, and it's always the so called "antifascists". And so what if some of them were armed? The city gave them a permit for the rally, open carry is legal in Washington, and they didn't cause any problems.

Marshall made it clear he didn't want any white supremacists there.

Rantz: Antifa protesters ask 'fascist' cops to break up peaceful protest

Mark Levin? Alrighty. And yet wherever there are right wing protesters, the white supremacists follow. Coincidence? The videos posted were from Oregon and California, not Seattle. Why post them when the question was about Seattle? And the counter protesters were not Antifa. And the Seattle police kept them separated.

[dozerbear]

Originally Posted by jakebarnes

You just want to complain right? The SPLC is a private organization, they are not oppressing you. In America, which I love, and I presume you do, we have these things like right to association and free speech. That means any kind of cuckoos can get together and believe any crazy stuff they want, as long as they aren't infringing on others rights. There are plenty of groups I think are stupid or crazy, on both sides of the political spectrum. They have a right to exist.

I fail to see how you are being oppressed. Some people disagree with you. Get over it, that's the world. No one is making you not be a Christian. Are your beliefs so fragile that hearing another's opinion will cause them to collapse?

The Soviet Poverty Law Center had to pay a 3.4 million dollar settlement to a reformist Muslim it labeled an "anti-muslim extremist" a few months ago, and just today they got visa and mastercard to block donation processing for the David Horowitz Freedom Center, by calling it a "hate group"
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/...e-group-label/

The SPLC promotes false propaganda, demonizes and labels groups they disagree with, and that labeling has economic as well as physical consequences.
The political and ideological bias of the SPLC has become so egregious in recent years that even Politico recently published a lengthy, damning piece asking if the former "civil rights stalwart" has "lost its way."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/32074...-james-barrett

Slandering people is illegal, and that's what the SPLC has been doing.

[Gaylord_Focker]

Heard some of the south suburbs are super conservative. True or no? Federal Way, Auburn, etc.

[CrazyDonkey]

Generally, the more urban (and ped/bus-centric), the more liberal; and the more rural (and car-centric), the more conservative. Complaining about it, either way, is akin to complaining about the weather. See:

The suburbs tend to be a mix, but with Bellevue tending to vote more liberal as it becomes not just a suburb, but a city in its own right. See: https://www.kingcounty.gov/independe...%20Cities.aspx

Homeless tend to congregate where services (shelters, missions, feeding programs, treatment programs, etc.) are available, which tends to be in Seattle proper, rather than in the County. Some think we can simply arrest our way out of the situation, without paying taxes to increase police, jail capacity, court personnel, treatment, etc., under the theory that, if sufficiently harassed, the homeless will simply "go away" - to "where", however, being a mystery.