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Old 04-21-2014, 11:02 PM
 
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...get your behind to an open deck, fast.

With the Korean ferry in mind this compelling story about those who survived the sinking of the ferry Estonia came to mind.

Those who moved fast, lived. Those who where slow or hesitated died.

A Sea Story - William Langewiesche - The Atlantic
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:39 PM
 
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Jeez. Sobering.
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:15 AM
 
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Horrifying story.
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:41 AM
 
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Rescue in trapped people from a capsized vessel has happened before..
Unfortunately these guys didn't get to my great uncles compartment in time...

USS Oklahoma and USS Maryland during the Pearl Harbor Attack

And A more recent story!

BBC News - Moment divers found man trapped alive in sunken ship
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Old 04-22-2014, 11:13 AM
 
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In my last week of Coast Guard recruit training/bootcamp I was asked if I wanted to a seaman apprentice or a fireman apprentice the difference being that seamen generally work above deck and stand watches on the bridge while firemen work in the engine room. I had spent far too many Saturday afternoons watching WWII and Titanic/ship sinking movies to give a second of thought to my decision. I chose seaman because I wasn't going to stuck below decks in a sinking ship, so I went aboard my first duty station a gleaming white Coast Guard Cutter as a seaman.

Unfortunately, even seaman have to sleep sometimes, that meant going below decks to our berthing area. So now what, I answered that question by spending a lot of time finding every door, hatch, passageway, staircase and ladder that would me out of the ship, not that I ever had the need to do so. Even still whenever we were in bad seas, and we were in a lot of hairy conditions, you could find me on somewhere on the main deck.

Anyway: This video of the Concordia sinking just blows my mind (skip through the tourist stuff).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MtWxnRBVvg
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Old 04-22-2014, 11:30 AM
 
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I solve the problem by staying off ships.
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:48 PM
 
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This topic is about as useful to me as "what to do if you find yourself on a space shuttle with a failing navigational computer". Most people end up on a ship if a) they own it or b) they are on a cruise. In case of a) they already know what to do. b) is a big mistake, it is like a small city on water with stomach flus and all
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Old 04-22-2014, 03:04 PM
 
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I solve the problem by staying off ships.
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This topic is about as useful to me as "what to do if you find yourself on a space shuttle with a failing navigational computer". Most people end up on a ship if a) they own it or b) they are on a cruise. In case of a) they already know what to do. b) is a big mistake, it is like a small city on water with stomach flus and all
I feel you, but millions of folks board cruise ships and inter-island ferries like the Estonia or the one that just recently sank off of South Korea and they are about as clueless as most of the ships crew... when the ship is listing you don't ask the bartender why the ship is listing and when he tells you that it is listing because of a "generator" problem its time to head to the boat stations.
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Old 04-22-2014, 03:09 PM
 
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I feel you, but millions of folks board cruise ships and inter-island fairies like the Estonia and the one that just recently sank off of South Korea so this thread was for them.
You can find ferrys working on Pugeot Sound and Alaska's inland passage too.
Not everyone lives in the center of the continent.

I was on the big Bird Farms in the Navy, but I was working on the upper decks, much better than those poor guys working down below waterline if there were problems.

I too made sure I knew the shortes route topside, just in case.
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Old 04-23-2014, 12:54 PM
 
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You can find ferrys working on Pugeot Sound and Alaska's inland passage too.
Not everyone lives in the center of the continent.

I was on the big Bird Farms in the Navy, but I was working on the upper decks, much better than those poor guys working down below waterline if there were problems.

I too made sure I knew the shortes route topside, just in case.
Personally, I'm just stunned by the rank incompetence of the officers and crews who man these ferries and cruise ships.

Caveat: I can understand the crew of the Korean ferry holding off on abandoning ship until they had confidence that the responding vessels had come alongside, based upon the currents and water temp but to not start bringing people topside is... (all the author can do is shake his head).
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