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Old 01-01-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Northern NH
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If anybody ever wonders why it is important to be prepared than watch the show Walking Dead. The show is great fun and it shows how important having guns and food etc. is in a collapsed society. Love love this show!
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Old 01-01-2012, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Itinerant
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If anybody ever wonders why it is important to be prepared than watch the show Walking Dead. The show is great fun and it shows how important having guns and food etc. is in a collapsed society. Love love this show!
Sure because Zombies are a clear and credible threat.

Didn't you also post about Transformers 3 as a SHTF scenario?

It's postings like this that give Preppers the reputation of being crazies, and slightly unhinged.
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Old 01-01-2012, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Northern NH
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Sure because Zombies are a clear and credible threat.

Didn't you also post about Transformers 3 as a SHTF scenario?

It's postings like this that give Preppers the reputation of being crazies, and slightly unhinged.

Have you watched the show? Just substitue zombies for any other SHTF scenario. You don't have to take Zombies as the absolute threat.
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Old 01-01-2012, 03:53 PM
 
Location: South of Houston
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I just finished watching the marathon on AMC and thought it was great. Now I can't wait for the new season to start Feb 12. After watching the entire series, I may just bring a few zombie targets to the gun range tomorrow...
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Old 01-01-2012, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Itinerant
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Have you watched the show? Just substitue zombies for any other SHTF scenario. You don't have to take Zombies as the absolute threat.
LOL... No but it's on my Netflix to watch list.

However you're taking threat abstraction too far. For instance The Road, The Book of Eli, Mad Max, Terminator etc. etc. all have certain things to glean from the stories, but at the end of the day you have to understand they're fictionalized, so to use a term frequently used in docudrama's "certain events may have be dramatized for entertainment purposes".

Unless whatever absolute threat acts like a zombie, then the planning is error prone, and even if it's perfectly accurate that the threat acts like a zombie, then the situation will be different because it's based upon a fictional encounter.

Look, don't take my word for it, lets take an example of firearms in movies. Can a shotgun cause someone shot with it to fly back 3-4 feet? Categorically no, unless the shooter also gets pushed back that distance (Newtons laws of motion).
Do people die after a single shot, in general no, unless it's in one or two a very specific locations. 2-3 shots will normally drop a target, but not always, however the person shot most likely will not die immediately, and will be screaming, crying and knowing that without immediate medical attention they're going to die. On the flip side, if you take a couple to the chest you're going down, and will likely be screaming, crying, etc., you're not John Rambo, and it's certainly more than a flesh wound. The one somewhat realistic presentation at least in tactics was "Collateral" with Jamie Foxx and Tom Cruise.

However from the above paragraph how many people without experience actually believe that these presentations of the effectiveness of firearms is realistic? If you read some things written one hell of a lot.

So if you base your defense planning on fictionalized accounts of firefights will that be effective? No, because the underlying expectations are invalid, they have been "dramatized for entertainment purposes". Unless you can pick out the dramatized events and have a reference to real world experience, then you're not able to combine both experiences into something that might be effective.

So unless you've had experience of dealing with a large mob of hostiles, trying to figure out what real world tactics could be used against the same mob of zombies isn't going to be effective. Of course if you have had that real world experience, then you don't need to watch the show.
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Old 01-01-2012, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL (Mandarin)
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Walking Dead is indeed a great show! I hate that the seasons are so short. Of course, the interactions between the prepared and the ill-prepared will be "slightly" different than dealing with a zombie threat, but the point is well-taken. I actually think it will be much more difficult facing the living.
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Old 01-01-2012, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Southeast Valley, PHX metro
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The CDC seems to be prepared... what aren't they telling us? CDC - Office of Public Health Preparedness and Response: Zombies
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Old 01-01-2012, 08:57 PM
 
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If anybody ever wonders why it is important to be prepared then watch footage of New Orleans After Katrina!
Fixed!

Good show though.
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Sure because Zombies are a clear and credible threat.
Absolutely.

Might I recommend FM 30-102 Zombie Force Threat, specifically Chapter 16 "Special Operations" and Chapter 17 "Training Tips," along with Appendix E "Personalities" and Appendix H "Movement Data."
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Old 01-02-2012, 08:01 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Default Uh-oh..

Zombies ate my meatball hero.....
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