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You can't survive on your own? Wow, that's pretty bad. Who can't grow their own food? Who can't cook on a fire? Who can't boil water to purify it? Shelter would be the only variable, but even primitive shelter is a viable option unless there are harsh winters to deal with - at which point you'd get on your feet and head to warmer climates.
I don't know about you, I could survive on my own if the absolute worst scenario dictated that I do so.
Who can't grow their own food?
Those that have no seed...those that have to start a plot of land from scratch...those that loose their plants to wild animals....those who have no way to store the food...those who are starving and can't wait until the food is ready to eat...
Who can't cook on a fire?....lots of people...those who don't want their fire seen...those that don't have matches....those who don't know how....
Will you be able to find water to boil? Will you have a pot?
Will they be able to kill, skin, butcher an animal and use all it's parts for survival? Will they know how to preserve the meat? Will they know how to tan hides or sew them together for clothes? What will they do without needles and thread?
""""Shelter would be the only variable, but even primitive shelter is a viable option unless there are harsh winters to deal with - at which point you'd get on your feet and head to warmer climates. """
Yes, packing up and carrying all your possesions and food supllies on your back? How far can you walk? How safe will you be? Will you find your "home" still there when you return? If everyone heads for a warmer climate how will they interact? Will the people who are already there welcome strangers???
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SAN DIEGO – Six months ago, Jim Wiseman didn't even have a spare nutrition bar in his kitchen cabinet.
Now, the 54-year-old businessman and father of five has a backup generator, a water filter, a grain mill and a 4-foot-tall pile of emergency food tucked in his home in the expensive San Diego suburb of La Jolla.
Wiseman isn't alone. Emergency supply retailers and military surplus stores nationwide have seen business boom in the past few months as an increasing number of Americans spooked by the economy rush to stock up on gear that was once the domain of hardcore survivalists.
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"There's so many people who are concerned about the economy that there's a huge interest in preparedness, and it pretty much crosses all lines, social, economic, political and religious," he said. "There's a steep learning curve going on right now."
Art Markman, a cognitive psychologist, said he's not surprised by the reaction to the nation's financial woes — even though it may seem irrational. In an increasingly global and automated society, most people are dependent on strangers and systems they don't understand — and the human brain isn't programmed to work that way.
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"I don't want to be a slave to anybody," he said. "The more systems you're dependent on, the more likely things are going to go bad for you."
Those that have no seed...those that have to start a plot of land from scratch...those that loose their plants to wild animals....those who have no way to store the food...those who are starving and can't wait until the food is ready to eat...
Who can't cook on a fire?....lots of people...those who don't want their fire seen...those that don't have matches....those who don't know how....
Will you be able to find water to boil? Will you have a pot?
Will they be able to kill, skin, butcher an animal and use all it's parts for survival? Will they know how to preserve the meat? Will they know how to tan hides or sew them together for clothes? What will they do without needles and thread?
""""Shelter would be the only variable, but even primitive shelter is a viable option unless there are harsh winters to deal with - at which point you'd get on your feet and head to warmer climates. """
Yes, packing up and carrying all your possesions and food supllies on your back? How far can you walk? How safe will you be? Will you find your "home" still there when you return? If everyone heads for a warmer climate how will they interact? Will the people who are already there welcome strangers???
Gosh, sounds like fun but I'll gladly pass.....
LOL I didn't say it would be cozy or easy, but I could do it, and I think you could to if it came down to it.
LOL I didn't say it would be cozy or easy, but I could do it, and I think you could to if it came down to it.
Sure I could ....with indoor plumbing, Ace Hardware/liquor store nearby, horses that don't need feed, a large tractor, a snowmobile(neither of which need gas), a laundry service and , of course, gardeners....oh, and a library .....and the Internet...that's all....I can rough it with the best!
It's testament to the damage caused by the Bush Administration that people now think like this. But they should, and they should also remember that half of voting age Americans (who bothered to actually vote) votedfor this situation to now present itself when they voted Bush/Cheney in 2004.
Perhaps that's the real natural disaster, the ignorance of half of voting age Americans who actually vote (for President, not American Idol)
SAN DIEGO – Six months ago, Jim Wiseman didn't even have a spare nutrition bar in his kitchen cabinet.
Now, the 54-year-old businessman and father of five has a backup generator, a water filter, a grain mill and a 4-foot-tall pile of emergency food tucked in his home in the expensive San Diego suburb of La Jolla.
Ah, a "Wise Ant" who has saved up a storehouse, for the "bad winter".
Let's hope the "Gestapo Grasshoppers" don't find it and take it from him.
Are there novels about this sort of survival? Such a fascinating topic.
I can think of two apocalyptic books, though they're both post-nuke stories: The Road by Cormac McCarthy (soon to be a major MP) and an older and far far better book, Riddley Walker by Russell Hoban. But none on "just" social collapse come to mind.
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