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Old 11-23-2019, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Upstate, NY
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Fifth force?

In November 2019, it was announced by Krasznahorkay that he and his team at ATOMKI had successfully observed the same anomalies in the decay of stable helium atoms as had been observed in beryllium-8, strengthening the case for the X17 particle's existence. This was reported through Science Journalism, focusing largely on the implications that the existence of the X17 particle and a corresponding fifth force would have in the search for dark matter. Speaking to The Independent, Krasznahorkay said "if the particle’s existence is confirmed, it means physicists will have to finally reassess the interactions of the existing four fundamental forces of particle physics and make space for a fifth." - Wikipedia

Any folks in the know, know if this is the real deal or not?
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Old 11-23-2019, 04:48 PM
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Location: Macon, Georgia
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Default Scientists 'have found a FIFTH force of nature': Researchers claim to have observed energy that 'connects the visible wo

Had to check this.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ce-nature.html
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Old 11-24-2019, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Upstate, NY
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They are suggesting a possible connection to dark matter, and thereby a link to solving the unified theory conundrum.
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Old 11-24-2019, 10:55 PM
 
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This guy did a good job explaining it. This could be something very important in the future.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6GhM_2_P_g
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Old 11-26-2019, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Or perhaps there's something we don't understand about the weak force?
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Old 11-26-2019, 08:38 PM
 
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There is no fifth force. The programmers are messing with us.
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Old 11-27-2019, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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If it’s real, I think they should call it LeeLoo.
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Old 12-01-2019, 05:57 AM
 
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Fifth force?

In November 2019, it was announced by Krasznahorkay that he and his team at ATOMKI had successfully observed the same anomalies in the decay of stable helium atoms as had been observed in beryllium-8, strengthening the case for the X17 particle's existence. This was reported through Science Journalism, focusing largely on the implications that the existence of the X17 particle and a corresponding fifth force would have in the search for dark matter. Speaking to The Independent, Krasznahorkay said "if the particle’s existence is confirmed, it means physicists will have to finally reassess the interactions of the existing four fundamental forces of particle physics and make space for a fifth." - Wikipedia

Any folks in the know, know if this is the real deal or not?
Depends on what you mean by real deal. There was a real report that suggested existence of a new MeV particle but it has not been peer reviewed. The team that published the paper have in the past made similar pronouncements that received some criticisms. And it remains an open question whether their earlier claims of a 16.7 MeV particle or the current 17 MeV particle will stand up to scrutiny.

In that respect I always try to remember the 'faster than light neutrinos' findings that led to a great media storm but turned out to be a result of some bad fiber optic cable connection. So, basically, until there's been some further testing (from teams other than the publishing team) that either supports or refutes the results, I see no reason for excitement

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Old Today, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Mars City
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No, cold fusion is the fifth force. Bwaahhahhahha.
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