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Old 06-08-2013, 10:07 PM
 
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Per my last MRI, I have both gallstones and kidney stones. But I'm so stupid: what hurts is the kidney stones, I think. Isn't the gallbladder in the front of the body, on the right? What hurts, me, not now but occasionally recently, is pain in the lower back on the right.

I have no idea where things are in my body, and I kinda don't want to know...
If you have kidney stones, don't take additional Vitamin C supplements. It will only make them worse. Gall bladder pain can be felt in the front or back and sometimes both. Radiating pain on the right side including the arm, as well. No two people experience the same pain. This is, sometimes, the reason it isn't diagnosed quickly. Learn where your organs are. It's important. As for your gallbladder . . . it sits below the liver.

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Old 06-09-2013, 01:34 AM
 
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I had a friend a number of years ago that did this and it worked. She even got the stones out of the toilet and was going around showing them to people. They looked like the kidney stones my ex passes, they were very pourous but solid.
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Old 06-09-2013, 01:36 AM
 
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Per my last MRI, I have both gallstones and kidney stones. But I'm so stupid: what hurts is the kidney stones, I think. Isn't the gallbladder in the front of the body, on the right? What hurts, me, not now but occasionally recently, is pain in the lower back on the right.

I have no idea where things are in my body, and I kinda don't want to know...
When I had a gallbladder attack years ago I first hurt in the front right like under my ribs, but very soon it shot into my back. I ended up having to have surgery to have my gallbladder removed.
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Old 06-13-2013, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, TX
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Gall-stones don't come out when you use the bathroom. Those are kidney stones that do that. The gallstones are in your gallbladder and when they pop out of there - they usually head into your liver - that in no way has an "out" when it comes to a toilet!
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Old 07-05-2013, 10:06 PM
 
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I personally believed this because my husband tried this procedure. My husband was admitted at a hospital in Belgium for 4 days diagnose of having a gallstone, treated with antibiotic and released to come back after 1 month for an operation, to remove gallbladder+gallstone. But he decided to be operated here in the Philippines. Same diagnosis and same operation. But then, still don't want to remove he's gallbladder we tried Dr Lai Chiu Nan procedure.After the 6 days regimen, the next morning passes 13 pcs of gallstones of different sizes, and then the nxt morning , again passes 26 pcs of gallstones. So it really helps cost only 1,200.00 pesos compare to 50-80K cost on operation. So I'm spreading this very good news to my relatives and friends. Even on Facebook I posted it. And lastly I want to thank[mod]too new to make referrals[/mod] for this. From Nette, July 6,2013

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Old 09-23-2013, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The oil you drink doesn't go go up the bile duct. It stimulates the gland to expel its contents.
One of the reasons the stones accumulate is because you don't have enough oil in your diet.

You don't have to suffer thru this treatment.
Nor do you have to suffer thru expensive surgery having your vital parts removed.

Years ago I had gall stones.
I started taking Lecithin. You start slow so the stones don't crack in give you more problems.
Work up to a tablespoon a day.
It has been 40 years and I do not have any problems.

Lecithin best way to dissolve gallstones at Ask Barefoot Herbalist, topic 714310
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Old 09-23-2013, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Gall-stones don't come out when you use the bathroom. Those are kidney stones that do that. The gallstones are in your gallbladder and when they pop out of there - they usually head into your liver - that in no way has an "out" when it comes to a toilet!
There is a duct between the gallbladder and the small intestine. Stones can be passed through it, sometimes completely blocking it, but would any one really want to search through feces for gallstones?

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I personally believed this because my husband tried this procedure. My husband was admitted at a hospital in Belgium for 4 days diagnose of having a gallstone, treated with antibiotic and released to come back after 1 month for an operation, to remove gallbladder+gallstone. But he decided to be operated here in the Philippines. Same diagnosis and same operation. But then, still don't want to remove he's gallbladder we tried Dr Lai Chiu Nan procedure.After the 6 days regimen, the next morning passes 13 pcs of gallstones of different sizes, and then the nxt morning , again passes 26 pcs of gallstones. So it really helps cost only 1,200.00 pesos compare to 50-80K cost on operation. So I'm spreading this very good news to my relatives and friends. Even on Facebook I posted it. And lastly I want to thankModerator cut: too new to make referrals for this. From Nette, July 6,2013
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The oil you drink doesn't go go up the bile duct. It stimulates the gland to expel its contents.
One of the reasons the stones accumulate is because you don't have enough oil in your diet.

You don't have to suffer thru this treatment.
Nor do you have to suffer thru expensive surgery having your vital parts removed.

Years ago I had gall stones.
I started taking Lecithin. You start slow so the stones don't crack in give you more problems.
Work up to a tablespoon a day.
It has been 40 years and I do not have any problems.

Lecithin best way to dissolve gallstones at Ask Barefoot Herbalist, topic 714310

Stones passing through the duct between the gallbladder and the intestine cause severe pain and can obstruct the duct completely.

If gallstones are not causing any symptoms, it is not necessary to treat them at all. If they do cause symptoms, surgery is the most reliable way to treat them.

There are medications that can dissolve them, but they tend to recur when the medication is stopped.

Gallstones: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

"Medicines called chenodeoxycholic acids (CDCA) or ursodeoxycholic acid (UDCA, ursodiol) may be given in pill form to dissolve cholesterol gallstones. However, they may take 2 years or longer to work, and the stones may return after treatment ends.
Rarely, chemicals are passed into the gallbladder through a catheter. The chemical rapidly dissolves cholesterol stones. This treatment is not used very often, because it is difficult to perform, the chemicals can be toxic, and the gallstones may return."

There is evidence for the usefuness of lecithin, also.

But neither of those apparently is helpful for stones that have calcified.

A more technical discussion:

Therapy of gallstone disease: What it was, what it is, what it will be

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Old 01-25-2014, 06:42 PM
 
Location: North Dakota
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An amazing herb for breaking down kidney and gall stones is called chanca piedra, which translate to break stone. It is an herb from the Amazon rainforest and is very safe. Hope this information helps.
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Old 01-25-2014, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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An amazing herb for breaking down kidney and gall stones is called chanca piedra, which translate to break stone. It is an herb from the Amazon rainforest and is very safe. Hope this information helps.
The safety of chanca piedra has not been confirmed, and it can have potential interactions with some medications, including lithium (used for depression) and some drugs for diabetes.

Its diuretic effect might even have a deleterious effect on kidney stones.

Chanca Piedra Effectiveness, Safety, and Drug Interactions on RxList
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Old 01-28-2014, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, AZ
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I can't help but wonder if the "green stones" are due to the olive oil. However, I do know many people who feel they have benefited from the cleanse. It would be great if some doctors would do some clinical research on this and test the content of the stones resulting from the "cleanse".

If it was me, I'd try phosphatidyl choline or the lecithin suggested above.
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