Vitamin D3 AND Vitamin K2 (MK-7) together?

[VGravitas]

Don't fermented foods generally contain both vitamins D and MK7?

[hellothereIN]

if you have to supplement, you need calcium in order for the supplement to do what it's supposed to do.

Please post this information, for I cannot find anything that claims to take calcium at all. sorry. I take Vit D3 because most do not get adequate amounts from sunshine especially in the North/winter. I take D3 with a full/fatty meal along with K2- for my bones and do weight bearing exercises to help keep those bones well, strong.

I eat a varied diet and I believe I get enough calcium from foods.

I have never read that supplementing with calcium is necessary. Magnesium yes. But calcium? No.

[in_newengland]

Originally Posted by hellothereIN

Please post this information, for I cannot find anything that claims to take calcium at all. sorry. I take Vit D3 because most do not get adequate amounts from sunshine especially in the North/winter. I take D3 with a full/fatty meal along with K2- for my bones and do weight bearing exercises to help keep those bones well, strong.

I eat a varied diet and I believe I get enough calcium from foods.

I have never read that supplementing with calcium is necessary. Magnesium yes. But calcium? No.

Women over a certain age need to supplement with calcium unless they are getting a lot of dairy products. Osteoporosis becomes a concern. Also, people who consume a lot of caffeine tend to become low in calcium because caffeine leeches the calcium out of the bones. There are men who drank tons of coffee all day long and developed thinning bones. It probably depends on the person, their age, their diet. To fully absorb the calcium, they need magnesium too, of course.

[h_scott]

Fermented foods (natto and cheeses) are the best food sources of vitamin K2. You won't get it from rice or beans. Green leafy vegetables are generally K1. K1 is for blood clotting. K2 is for bone health. There are two forms of K2 - menaquinone 4 (MK-4 - synthetic / drug) and menaquinone 7 (MK-7). Studies have shown that MK-7 is far more effective than MK-4 in raising blood levels of K2 (lower levels needed and it stays in the blood much longer). The typical western diet does not provide much MK-7 at all.

Studies (human and animal) have shown that MK-7 helps to put calcium in your bones where you want it and keep it out of our arteries where you don't want it.

The calcium studies mentioned were done with calcium Only - not with vit D or vit K. Calcium supplementation is still very important for post menopausal women or people who have a history of osteoporosis. But in my opinion it should also contain D & K2 (as MK-7) to be effective.

[hellothereIN]

I take a food based K2 along with D3 to keep calcium OUT of my arteries and in my BONES where it belongs, just like h_scott said.

If you need to take calcium and want it to go into your BONES, ask your doctor to be sure you have plenty of K2. A little magnesium with the calcium helps, too.

[nutrizing]

Yes, I thought vitamins like K and D you get from foods but if you want them properly then you need to use some supplements. But I'm still unsure as to whether to supplement or just try to eat enough normal everyday-type foods.
Thanks!!