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Again, those "many weeks off" that teachers get are not weeks off because they will be filled with numerous tasks.
I find this hilarious. I'm again going to use my sister in law as an example. She must be completely bombarded with numerous school task while on her cruise or trips she takes over the summer, Christmas, Thanksgiving, and spring break.
Slackjaw, I think that they may take the option of getting higher pay during the active school year, then when school is in recess they don't get a paycheck. So they meet the qualifications for assistance for a brief time each year.
Slackjaw, I think that they may take the option of getting higher pay during the active school year, then when school is in recess they don't get a paycheck. So they meet the qualifications for assistance for a brief time each year.
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Originally Posted by sherrenee
If that is the case it is absolutely disgusting.
In your job as a social worker you know that's not the way things work. This goes back to an earlier post of mine about a guy I know who thinks teachers collect unemployment in the summer. They don't unless they have been laid off. Just like from any job, unless they are collecting their deferred summer pay. Layoffs are now happening in some districts.
In MD a first year teacher with 2 children would have those children qualify for Free and Reduced Meals. Other programs like rental assistance, WIC, etc. I don't know and don't feel like doing the research as I'm preparing for another furlough day tomorrow. You know, one of those things that never happen to unionized teachers.
I find this hilarious. I'm again going to use my sister in law as an example. She must be completely bombarded with numerous school task while on her cruise or trips she takes over the summer, Christmas, Thanksgiving, and spring break.
Glad to make you laugh. And smack your head. And roll your eyes.
I guess we just know different types of teachers then.
Teachers are paid a salary based on a year. The salary should be based on the number of days they are working.
I am totally and very vocal against what the politicians make and their benefits. If it involves tax dollars being wasted/misused then I am against that too.
Your first statement is wrong. Teachers are generally paid only for the days in their contract, not a salary based on a year. They are not paid FOR the holidays and school breaks, they are just paid DURING them. That means that the salary is in fact based on the number of days that they are contracted to work.
My contract specifies a salary for a certain number of days. The minimum school year is 180 days as required by the state legislature. The districts have flexibility in how many professional development days that they include. The trend is to cut teacher work days to zero, as most teachers will come in on the weekends to get their rooms ready for the school year. There are a certain number of professional development days that the district includes.
Our district removed the option to receive our salaries over 10 months. That means that I will not get paid for the work I do in May until the end of July. What other jobs defer the salary for two months, allowing the employer to earn money on the earned but unpaid salary?
Doesn't it all add up the same in the end? You know your salary will be x per year, at the end of the year you'll have been paid x, but there will be times during the year when you aren't required to work but will still receive regular paychecks?
Unless I'm misunderstanding, which is entirely possible.
Doesn't it all add up the same in the end? You know your salary will be x per year, at the end of the year you'll have been paid x, but there will be times during the year when you aren't required to work but will still receive regular paychecks?
Unless I'm misunderstanding, which is entirely possible.
Maybe.
Teachers are paid for days worked, let's say 190 (180 student days plus 10 inservice days. Some systems have more of those, some less). Those days can fall anywhere in the budget/fiscal year.
Where everyone gets confused is the year round pay. You get paid for those 190 days (about 10 months) either with 22 pays during those 10 months or you can defer part of your pay during those 10 months and receive that deferred pay during the 2 months school is not in session and have 26 pays.
I'm on a 22 pay schedule, 26 wasn't offered when I was hired and I never bothered to change to it, so there are some years, like last year, that my final check comes a couple weeks prior to the end of classes. Last year was 12 or so snow days.
Are you really saying that all those weeks teachers have off are filled up with tasks? Two months of summer just filled up?
Teachers here (in my city) are quite busy. The teachers have the option to earn some extra $ if they want to do summer school or other school based summer programs. Other teachers are taking continuing education courses or even Master degree courses.
Teachers are paid for days worked, let's say 190 (180 student days plus 10 inservice days. Some systems have more of those, some less). Those days can fall anywhere in the budget/fiscal year.
Where everyone gets confused is the year round pay. You get paid for those 190 days (about 10 months) either with 22 pays during those 10 months or you can defer part of your pay during those 10 months and receive that deferred pay during the 2 months school is not in session and have 26 pays.
I'm on a 22 pay schedule, 26 wasn't offered when I was hired and I never bothered to change to it, so there are some years, like last year, that my final check comes a couple weeks prior to the end of classes. Last year was 12 or so snow days.
Our state is different. We get 12 checks per year, each on the last working day of the month. That means before Christmas vacation, as early as 12/17, with the next check coming January 31. That's a long time, and even after 25 years, it's hard to make the check last for 6+ weeks. We no longer have the choice to get our check over 10 months. The state gets to keep the money we earn in May until they pay us at the end of July. Of course, we don't earn interest on that money, but they do.
"my single friends who teach are on food stamps and in section-8 housing" claim. It would be more a case of manipulating the system than having an actual need that the system was designed to qualify for.
Teachers may soon apply for food stamps (http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/local/pinellas/teachers-may-soon-apply-for-food-stamps-05202010 - broken link)
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CLEARWATER - Pinellas county teachers are getting briefed on what kind of low-income, government and charitable assistance programs they may be eligible for.
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"We're hearing more and more about how the teachers are having to water down their insulin to spread it out over days...it's no longer a full cart of groceries, it's a bag of groceries just to make it through that dinner and the next morning's breakfast," Black said.
Note that the article includes other school employees who are paid much less than teachers as well.
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