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Old 02-02-2015, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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I have a Highlander from the first year, 2001, and it routinely gets 18-19 around town.
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Old 02-02-2015, 07:54 AM
 
Location: East TX
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When We drove it home from the dealership on the highway the indicated mpg was pretty respectable but that is not how it is driven daily. I am just reporting the real life mileage. I do understand the issues with the short trip and all. It is just that high mileage numbers are thrown at people all the time. A large, heavy SUV is still a gas hog.
This is the price we pay for driving what we want to drive, and using the vehicles the way we want to use them. The responses so far have pretty well nailed down the issues creating the low fuel economy results. The real fact is, in that situation, with short drives on cold engine in stop-and-go traffic, the fuel economy difference between a typical sedan and a large SUV will be minimal. They will all suck.

I want to echo the sentiment of another post stating the need to occasionally get that vehicle out on the road and warm it up. Operate the vehicle at least occasionally at regular operating temps to clear the moisture, run through full range of operating temps to ensure the longevity of your vehicle.
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Old 02-02-2015, 08:26 AM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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This is the price we pay for driving what we want to drive, and using the vehicles the way we want to use them. The responses so far have pretty well nailed down the issues creating the low fuel economy results. The real fact is, in that situation, with short drives on cold engine in stop-and-go traffic, the fuel economy difference between a typical sedan and a large SUV will be minimal. They will all suck.

I want to echo the sentiment of another post stating the need to occasionally get that vehicle out on the road and warm it up. Operate the vehicle at least occasionally at regular operating temps to clear the moisture, run through full range of operating temps to ensure the longevity of your vehicle.
Absolutely right. Driving your car for 2 hours a day does more wear than driving it for 10 minutes a day, for sure, but carbon buildup can become a big problem with cars that are only driven for short trips and never opened up on the road.
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Absolutely right. Driving your car for 2 hours a day does more wear than driving it for 10 minutes a day, for sure, but carbon buildup can become a big problem with cars that are only driven for short trips and never opened up on the road.
The other problem is the moisture that gets trapped in the engine oil. Short drives never get the oil hot enough to have that water evaporate.
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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My hot rod Vega with a 350 cubic inch engine and a big racing cam and a big carburator and no overdrive transmission and no electronic engine management got 11.5 MPG.
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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This is the price we pay for driving what we want to drive, and using the vehicles the way we want to use them.
We absolutely did not need the size of the Highlander. The RAV4 would have suited us just fine. She is the lone driver 95% of the time. The problem is when you go to a small SUV you just don’t lose the size, you end up with a choppy ride and a noisy cabin. RAV4 has a terrible ride. Sitting in the back sounds like you are in a drum when going over highway concrete slabs. I don’t know if anybody makes a short SUV that also has a smooth ride.
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Old 02-02-2015, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Denver
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We absolutely did not need the size of the Highlander. The RAV4 would have suited us just fine. She is the lone driver 95% of the time. The problem is when you go to a small SUV you just don’t lose the size, you end up with a choppy ride and a noisy cabin. RAV4 has a terrible ride. Sitting in the back sounds like you are in a drum when going over highway concrete slabs. I don’t know if anybody makes a short SUV that also has a smooth ride.
I think what you are looking for is the dreaded wagon.

A car like ride yet lots of space in the back.
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Old 02-02-2015, 12:29 PM
 
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Most likely culprit is driving habit.
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Old 02-02-2015, 04:09 PM
 
Location: USA
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This is all what our new Highlander is getting. Government, or is it Toyota, says 20. There are 900 miles on the truck and is driven about 5 miles each way to work. I personally I never believed the 20 number so I am not surprised. How is this any different from the mileage SUVs got 20 years ago?
Just be happy you don't have a V8 4runner. I regularly see low 12s.
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Old 02-02-2015, 04:12 PM
 
Location: new yawk zoo
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The problem is when you go to a small SUV you just don’t lose the size, you end up with a choppy ride and a noisy cabin. RAV4 has a terrible ride. Sitting in the back sounds like you are in a drum when going over highway concrete slabs. I don’t know if anybody makes a short SUV that also has a smooth ride.
they do make small luxury suv. A wagon is the best choice for fuel economy with space & awd
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