Kurt Cobain case not being re-opened.

[Moriarti]

Originally Posted by WiseManOnceSaid

I'll just trust that the professionals have got it right on this one. They treated it as a murder/suicide scene and did their due diligence. Even re-examined the evidence and came to the same conclusions.

People do strange things to themselves when high on heroine. Your website says on many occasions that Kurt didn't seem suicidal, I would argue that doing heroine is suicidal... and that by taking that leap, he was, no doubt, suicidal.

Except professionals get it wrong all the time. Using your logic we should never question any official report.

They did not treat it was a murder at the scene. It was treated as a suicide. Re-examined the evidence? Other than the crime scene they didn't collect any.

People do strange things when on drugs. But good luck finding another case where someone committed suicide by firearm right after using heroin.

[Cliffie]

Originally Posted by thegreenflute334

They don't have any evidence except a lethal dose of heroin and a shotgun with no fingerprints on it. That doesn't equal suicide. My brother killed himself with a pistol. He picked it up and shot himself in the head and he wasn't loaded. With the amount of heroin in Kurt C system.. there is no way he could have pulled that off.. period.

I still disagree with you on that. For an addict with a high tolerance to have a dose of heroin in his system that would kill YOU does not mean it would kill HIM. That's what tolerance means; he can tolerate more than you can. Cobain was not "legally dead" just because he had enough heroin in his system to kill a non-addict. If that's "legally dead," we all know people who are walking around, raising their kids and working at jobs even though they are "legally dead." As long as the heroin did not exceed HIS tolerance -- or as long as a dose high enough to kill even Kurt Cobain had not yet fully kicked in -- he would be more than capable of putting a gun in his mouth and pulling the trigger.

70% of crime, accident and suicide scenes have no readable prints anywhere. This is especially true in suicidal shootings -- when you put a bullet in your head, you lose all muscle tone and your grip on the gun at the exact instant that the gun jumps out of your hand. That smears the prints. A lot of guns used by stone-cold sober shooters also have no prints. Because guns kick when you fire them. The kick tends to smear prints.

If Cobain was already dead from the heroin in his system, there would be no reason for his wife, or anyone else, to stage a suicide.

Same with Pfaff. If she was leaving the band and the state, meaning Love was rid of her, why kill her?

If you need a further illustration, remember the night Nancy Spungen died. Sid was out cold on 30 Tuinals. 5 would kill anyone without his drug tolerance. But he lived, and because of the FX of the drugs he had no idea who killed Nancy.