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Old 08-27-2013, 08:53 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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I bet the offended types can find something wrong with Miley's new video too:


Miley Cyrus - We Can't Stop - YouTube

To be honest, I watched expecting it to be sexually stimulating and realized it wasn't, but rather far from it. Actually, I think Miley's mannerisms, voice, and just overall seems child-like. Not in a way she would probably want to be perceived as, but I'm not sure. Maybe that was intentional. Anyway, it's not my kind of music, but I think it's good for what it is and who it's for and the song makes sense and communicates a clear message.

My biggest issue with Miley Cyrus is that that she cut her luscious hair off. That's what people should be whining about. This isn't really based off anything except my vague sense, but I almost think she could be a lesbian. She picked up the tongue thing before the VMA, I believe, judging by images in Google search. She definitely has a long tongue. She can apparently work it as well as she does her ass.
My daughter said the same thing, that she wondered if Miley Cyrus was a lesbian.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:18 PM
 
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Yeah. It's called diversity. Miley Cyrus's music and style isn't my style, either. I'm not a young girl or kid in general. I'm not big on music but occasionally get into something and my most recent thing was Ronnie Milsap. I doubt Miley's fan's like him. You see how that works?

The video I posted is tame and doesn't stand out by today's standards. However, there's been a lot of negative comments toward it that suggest it does. In reality, I think that's just people taking their discomfort with her VMA performance and projecting it onto her priorly-released new video.
That video was also widely criticized when it appeared. It stood out in a big way. A lot of people think she comes across as too try hard. And no, they are not all old. You should have seen twitter that day, not to mention all the funny gifs and tumblr pages making fun of her.

To me she just seems like a vapid rich girl wanna be. She's a former Disney girl overcompensating by trying to manufacture sexiness the same way her wholesome teen persona was manufactured.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Something I'm wondering about Miley's performance is if it's indication of a desire to go further. I wonder just how far Miley and others like her would go if they weren't constraints. Would they strip down, expose themselves (maybe Miley would have spread her vag on stage for the audience? Or even actually get effed as part of the performance?)? I know that stuff sounds far fetched, but I don't think it really is. Some will instantly say that would be pornography, but I don't think that's true. Who is to say nudity and sex can't be part of a musical performance that isn't pornography, but just that - a musical performance? If it weren't for imposed constraints, how far would it go?

I also wonder the same thing about the everyday suburban girls who twerk and dance on YouTube. If YouTube would allow it, would some push the envelope and make doing the same dancing, but exposed, acceptable? Judging by the performances, professional and on YouTube, some girls and women obviously have a desire to display themselves.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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That video was also widely criticized when it appeared. It stood out in a big way. A lot of people think she comes across as too try hard. And no, they are not all old. You should have seen twitter that day, not to mention all the funny gifs and tumblr pages making fun of her.

To me she just seems like a vapid rich girl wanna be. She's a former Disney girl overcompensating by trying to manufacture sexiness the same way her wholesome teen persona was manufactured.
Interesting. I wonder why the video was criticized. I don't see anything wrong with it. It seems good for what it is and communicates a clear message I think a lot of young people can relate with. As far as comments being projected on the music video, since the VMA's comments have still been coming in full force and rapidly under the video.

Miley doesn't strike me as a rich-girl wannabe. I don't see that. I understand what you're saying about overcompensation to get away from her innocent image and think that's maybe true to an extent, but I'm not sure her new persona is manufactured - she seems to be genuinely having fun, enjoying the stage/spotlight, living her life, and being/expressing herself.


Miley Cyrus Twerking video - YouTube
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:45 PM
 
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Was this posted yet? If so, it's still funny as hell
This cracked me up (no pun intended).
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:54 PM
 
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Interesting. I wonder why the video was criticized. I don't see anything wrong with it. It seems good for what it is and communicates a clear message I think a lot of young people can relate with. As far as comments being projected on the music video, since the VMA's comments have still been coming in full force and rapidly under the video.

Miley doesn't strike me as a rich-girl wannabe. I don't see that. I understand what you're saying about overcompensation to get away from her innocent image and think that's maybe true to an extent, but I'm not sure her new persona is manufactured - she seems to be genuinely having fun, enjoying the stage/spotlight, living her life, and being/expressing herself.


Miley Cyrus Twerking video - YouTube
I think if the video had come from anyone else it might not have made a splash. But because this was Hannah Montana and she had been sort of wilding out for a while now, the Internet reacted with a big WTF. Seriously if you google it you'll probably see a bunch of blogs and whatnot from the day it was released.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:57 PM
 
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Well, I'd actually like to THANK miley. Twerking has been finally killed.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:00 PM
 
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I miss the days where artists didn't have to be circus performers to mask the fact that they don't have any talent or musical ability.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:05 PM
 
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I think if the video had come from anyone else it might not have made a splash. But because this was Hannah Montana and she had been sort of wilding out for a while now, the Internet reacted with a big WTF. Seriously if you google it you'll probably see a bunch of blogs and whatnot from the day it was released.
I believe you. But even taking all of what you're saying here into account, I just don't see the reason for the fuss.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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I miss the days where artists didn't have to be circus performers to mask the fact that they don't have any talent or musical ability.
At the VMA's, a live performance is very much part of the entertainment. I think Miley is talented and has been all her life. She may not appeal to everybody, but who does? Seriously. You don't like peformances like hers and those you compare to a circus, but isn't there room for those type of performances to exist for those who like them in addition to whatever it is you like? Isn't there room for both types?
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