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Old 08-29-2017, 01:28 AM
 
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However, Matt Murdock still got blood all over his hands, which was one of the problems that I had with the Daredevil show.



DD was like a Batman comic pretty dark overall which is why I personally liked it.
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Old 08-29-2017, 09:28 PM
 
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Finn Jones is a miscast for Iron Fist, but at least the others helped pickup the slack.

My main problem was that once again, The Hand and Electra dragged down the show with their weird and confusing backstories that they spend forever on, yet never fully explain in detail. Then at the end, for all their mystery, they get destroyed easily by the Defenders like some b-level street fighters.

Marvel needs to drop Elektra and the Hand on-screen.
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Old 08-29-2017, 10:19 PM
 
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Finn Jones is a miscast for Iron Fist, but at least the others helped pickup the slack.

My main problem was that once again, The Hand and Electra dragged down the show with their weird and confusing backstories that they spend forever on, yet never fully explain in detail. Then at the end, for all their mystery, they get destroyed easily by the Defenders like some b-level street fighters.

Marvel needs to drop Elektra and the Hand on-screen.
I agree, the series ended on a hail mary. Actually now that I think about it, the writing for the story arc was **** poor for the fact that it anchored on Limp Fist; expect the story to be limping in odd turns. What is Black Sky anyway? Don't think I ever came across it in the comics, as I recollect.

With the exception of JJ and Iron Fist (from the comics), their abilities are rather B-level. Since DD, seemingly, reluctantly made "leader", everyone else had to conform (in terms of writing, development). DD never struck me as a powerful character, in the comics, he fights with a walking stick.

Daredevil (Matthew Murdock) - Marvel Universe Wiki: The definitive online source for Marvel super hero bios.

Iron Fist (Danny Rand) - Marvel Universe Wiki: The definitive online source for Marvel super hero bios.

https://marvel.com/universe/Cage,_Luke

Jones, Jessica - Marvel Universe Wiki: The definitive online source for Marvel super hero bios.

That's weird, why is JJ's stats so low? Perhaps since she was so minor in the Marvelverse, there was really no development throughout the years. Anyways, I remember as a kid collecting these cards with power stats and as far as I know, Iron Fist's stats are suppose to surpass both LC and DD - JJ will always be a mystery but from what I've read online of her, her power stats should be close to Iron Fist. It's too bad what Netflix did to the character. I had high expectations, he was a favorite of mine growing up. Netflix, the Showrunner, and the writers turned him into a flailing infant - with a touch of Keanu Reeves from Bill & Ted.

~sigh
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Old 08-30-2017, 07:56 PM
 
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With the exception of JJ and Iron Fist (from the comics), their abilities are rather B-level. Since DD, seemingly, reluctantly made "leader", everyone else had to conform (in terms of writing, development). DD never struck me as a powerful character, in the comics, he fights with a walking stick.




One could say the same of Batman yet he's one of the most feared people in the DC universe. And he's the Justice League's leader when it comes down to it. JJ is stronger then Cage is as a whole.


Having power isn't always a good thing people can lose them where as people like DD, Batman can't plus it makes them MORE human then those that do.
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Old 08-30-2017, 10:41 PM
 
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One could say the same of Batman yet he's one of the most feared people in the DC universe. And he's the Justice League's leader when it comes down to it. JJ is stronger then Cage is as a whole.


Having power isn't always a good thing people can lose them where as people like DD, Batman can't plus it makes them MORE human then those that do.
I can see bits of parallel between the two but can't be quite compared, if we are to be accurate. One of Batman's strongest attributes is his intelligence, DD is not quite so, if we are to compare the two. Iron Fist's stats outclasses DD in every way ... I mean come on. Netflix botched it.

Besides, I was referring to Netflix's portrayal of DD being reluctantly "in charge".
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Old 08-31-2017, 04:52 AM
 
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I can see bits of parallel between the two but can't be quite compared, if we are to be accurate. One of Batman's strongest attributes is his intelligence, DD is not quite so, if we are to compare the two. Iron Fist's stats outclasses DD in every way ... I mean come on. Netflix botched it.

Besides, I was referring to Netflix's portrayal of DD being reluctantly "in charge".





I think DD is a better fighter then Iron Fist of all with his senses the way they are it's very Spider-Man like. Again strength isn't everything. The only thing Netflix botched for me was Finn playing Iron Fist He just wasn't believable to me.


It makes sense that DD wouldn't want to be in charge he was trying to run from who he is.


Overall I liked it Minus Finn as Iron Fist.
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Old 09-04-2017, 07:34 AM
 
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I agree, the series ended on a hail mary. Actually now that I think about it, the writing for the story arc was **** poor for the fact that it anchored on Limp Fist; expect the story to be limping in odd turns. What is Black Sky anyway? Don't think I ever came across it in the comics, as I recollect.

With the exception of JJ and Iron Fist (from the comics), their abilities are rather B-level. Since DD, seemingly, reluctantly made "leader", everyone else had to conform (in terms of writing, development). DD never struck me as a powerful character, in the comics, he fights with a walking stick.

Daredevil (Matthew Murdock) - Marvel Universe Wiki: The definitive online source for Marvel super hero bios.

Iron Fist (Danny Rand) - Marvel Universe Wiki: The definitive online source for Marvel super hero bios.

https://marvel.com/universe/Cage,_Luke

Jones, Jessica - Marvel Universe Wiki: The definitive online source for Marvel super hero bios.

That's weird, why is JJ's stats so low? Perhaps since she was so minor in the Marvelverse, there was really no development throughout the years. Anyways, I remember as a kid collecting these cards with power stats and as far as I know, Iron Fist's stats are suppose to surpass both LC and DD - JJ will always be a mystery but from what I've read online of her, her power stats should be close to Iron Fist. It's too bad what Netflix did to the character. I had high expectations, he was a favorite of mine growing up. Netflix, the Showrunner, and the writers turned him into a flailing infant - with a touch of Keanu Reeves from Bill & Ted.

~sigh
Good points. I still for the life of me can't figure out why Marvel does not show Jessica Jones real superpower of being able to jump super high and her flying ability. She has like 2 super jumps randomly in her series, and they have never shown her flying. They didn't show either ability in Defenders. I know in the comics she doesn't like to fly because she's not good at it, but they need to at least display that ability. I'm thinking that either a) it's a departure from the more realistic tone of the Netflix shows (although being bulletproof and having a glowing fist is too, yet they display those powers) or b) they're waiting on highlighting her powers for her second season as a way to add some buzz to the season. Either way, it's a little weird that she's been in 2 series and her most unique power is glossed over.
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Old 09-05-2017, 09:33 AM
 
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Good points. I still for the life of me can't figure out why Marvel does not show Jessica Jones real superpower of being able to jump super high and her flying ability. She has like 2 super jumps randomly in her series, and they have never shown her flying. They didn't show either ability in Defenders. I know in the comics she doesn't like to fly because she's not good at it, but they need to at least display that ability..



My understanding according to the show at least is that she didn't like using her powers let alone fly as you said above.
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Old 09-05-2017, 01:18 PM
 
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Outside of Daredevil, I didn't love the other series, and never got into the Hand as being good villains, so I was a little pessimistic to begin with.
I thought the JJ series was good for the mere fact that the villain (Kilgrave) was more original than what we're accustomed to seeing. Luke Cage was good until the end where he somehow wasn't strong enough to easily beat a guy in a Halloween costume.
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