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This is an awesome thread. I'm in the minority in that I enjoyed the 008 episode. It was interesting to see what choices Eleven/Jane would make when faced with someone more like herself than anyone else she'd ever met in so many ways. Especially because 008 was so pushy and Eleven is meek by comparison. The only thing that bothered me is that I wanted to switch back to Hawkins to see how the rest were doing in the middle of the episode, and assumed that would happen at some point but didn't (unless I fell asleep or something ).
I loved Sean Astin's character almost from the beginning. I had a bad feeling he was going to be the next Barb about halfway through. He was just toogood. And I guess we're supposed to think Joyce and Hopper are a better match, so he has to be eliminated somehow. I didn't know the scene would be so graphic! After the demodog jumped on him and Joyce screamed I was like, OMG I get it...it's happening...I don't want to see any more! Also, speaking of deaths, poor Mews. I'm very fond of Dustin but didn't like him in the moment he was giving his mom false hope.
I am hoping 008 and her gang return and there's some kind of Xavier/Magneto plot, but not that it takes over the show too much.
Billy feels superfluous to me. Did anyone else have that feeling? I hope they do something else with him, but I don't want it to be an affair with Mike's mom. That was too gross to contemplate.
I am hoping 008 and her gang return and there's some kind of Xavier/Magneto plot, but not that it takes over the show too much.
I'm sure that plotline will be back, but I sure hope the writing improves for them. Their characters did not seem real. They were live-action cartoons. A cadre of killers dressing like they were headed to a Bow Wow Wow concert? And the fact that they were a gang of murderers was not given nearly enough pathos and depth. Thin and cartoony.
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Billy feels superfluous to me. Did anyone else have that feeling? I hope they do something else with him, but I don't want it to be an affair with Mike's mom. That was too gross to contemplate.
The Duffers have said they wanted a "human antagonist" for the show. Steve was supposed to be that, but everyone fell so in love with the actor's performance that his character has taken on new depth. He was a villain who became a hero. So now they show needs a new villain. Billy was a bit superfluous in Season 2, so I'm sure he'll be back in Season 3.
I took the scene of him flirting with Mike's mom as a bit of comic relief. It was funny and showed Mike's dad for the clueless schlub he is. Those bits work well as brief moments of comic relief. But to make them part of the overall plot? Yeah, I too think that would be a big mistake. Stranger Things shouldn't turn into Creepy Cougartown.
A thread devoted to all the classic movie references in ST2 would be great. Did anyone catch the Three O'Clock High movie reference ? That's a classic 1980's movie that not a lot of people know about.
It was not on Time magazine's list
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Breaking Down the Many Stranger Things References You Might Have Missed
By Ashley Hoffman November 1, 2017
Here are 31 of the major ones we noticed throughout Stranger Things season 2.
1. Ghostbusters (1984)
2. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977)
3. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984)
4. The Goonies (1985)
5. The Terminator (1984)
6. Aliens (1986)
7. Jaws (1975)
8. It (1990)
9. Sixteen Candles (1984), The Breakfast Club (1985) and Pretty in Pink (1986)
10. C.H.U.D. (1984)
11. Tank’s “Filth Hounds of Hades†(1982)
12. The Exorcist (1973)
13. Frankenstein (1931)
14. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
15. Dazed and Confused (1993)
16. Karate Kid (1984)
17. The Shining (1980)
18. Michael Jackson’s “Thriller†(1982)
19. The Thing (1982)
20. Lord of the Rings
21. Gremlins (1984)
22. Poltergeist (1982)
23. Super 8 (2011)
24. Shawshank Redemption (1994)
25. Resident Evil (1996)
26. The Mist (2007)
27. Escape From New York (1981)
28. Godzilla vs. Biollante (1989)
29. Witness (1985)
30. Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
31. Mad Max (1979)
I thought Season 2 was great! I actually liked it better than the season 1. Honestly, I think I liked it more because of the group dynamics were better. Sean Astin was great, and the kids were hilarious. I thought Dustin stole the show with his comic relief throughout. I'm kind of glad Eleven didn't have a dominant role because while she's good for her part, the way she interacts with the rest of the group kind of kills the vibe. Winona Rider also was great, and the little plots with different groups of characters worked really well. Season 2 lived up to the hype.
Because this was the episode that completely broke suspension of disbelief. Episode 7 seemed more like a Beyond Thunderdome fanfic. A gang of homeless youth living in an abandoned warehouse, yet all obviously clean and spending at least $80 a day on cosmetics, professional hairstyles, etc. And the graffiti and barrels, etc. looked soooo fake. Too clean. It looked more like a Pat Benatar video than a bunch of homeless street kids.
Right--that was prime example of characters looking like punks from 80s movies and videos (always have to have the barrel fire, right?) not actual gutter punks from the 80s and how they'd live.
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I'm very fond of Dustin but didn't like him in the moment he was giving his mom false hope.
