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So, why not the same thing for Haitians? I can see South Florida and the NYC area getting quite a few Haitians due to the fact many are in those areas. Same with the Boston, DC, Chicago and Providence areas. I could see the Atlanta area possibly getting their share of Haitian immigrants too.
Canada will probably get quite a few, as Montreal and somewhat Toronto and Ottawa have quite a few already.
So, why not the same thing for Haitians? I can see South Florida and NY getting quite a few Haitians due to the fact many are in those areas. Same with the Boston, DC, Atlanta and Providence areas. Canada will probably get quite a few, as Montreal and somewhat Toronto and Ottawa have quite a few already.
Florida will receive the brunt with New York right behind. I see a good deal of civil rights movement on the 'wet feet, dry feet' policy that was afforded to the cubans.
So, why not the same thing for Haitians? I can see South Florida and the NYC area getting quite a few Haitians due to the fact many are in those areas. Same with the Boston, DC, Chicago and Providence areas. I could see the Atlanta area possibly getting their share of Haitian immigrants too.
Canada will probably get quite a few, as Montreal and somewhat Toronto and Ottawa have quite a few already.
I could see the Haitians coming to Atlanta. There is already a sizeable Haitian population in metropolitan Atlanta. Boston and Miami as well.
There's word that they'll start a similar plan, dubbed "Operation Pierre Pan".
It should have started a long time ago. When Castro came to power, Cubans who took the rafts to Florida were pretty much guaranteed refugee status. When Papa Doc and Baby Doc were in power(along with the dreaded Ton Ton Macoute), no one cared. Haitians got arrested or detained when they showed up on the rafts. As bad as Fidel was, Haiti was also bad. Papa Doc and Baby Doc were basically dictators with a brutal militia and sucked the nation dry. Haitians should have been granted that same status, but they weren't.
It should have started a long time ago. When Castro came to power, Cubans who took the rafts to Florida were pretty much guaranteed refugee status. When Papa Doc and Baby Doc were in power(along with the dreaded Ton Ton Macoute), no one cared. Haitians got arrested or detained when they showed up on the rafts. As bad as Fidel was, Haiti was also bad. Papa Doc and Baby Doc were basically dictators with a brutal militia and sucked the nation dry. Haitians should have been granted that same status, but they weren't.
How about Japan opening its doors...............to massive illegal immigration..................
I'm an American...if they opened their doors, I'd apply. But, as it is, doesn't exist in Japan. They do have illegal immigration though, etc. But they round them up and send them out. I'm here legally.
Besides, opening up their doors to massive illegal immigration...that's a contradictory in terms. What'll happen is refugee status type things, etc.
I have donated and I am praying. If Haitians come to the USA, they come. Many other immigrants come hear. Why not Haitians?
I've been lucky enough to know several Haitians...two of which are on my facebook, they are Haitian-Americans with tons of family in Haiti.
Some of the nicest people a person could ever hope to meet. One's from Miami and the other is from NY. (I met both of them abroad).
No doubt after this, there will be more Haitians coming into America. But there already are quite a few Haitians in America now, and they've settled and adjusted just fine. They're good people.
It should have started a long time ago. When Castro came to power, Cubans who took the rafts to Florida were pretty much guaranteed refugee status. When Papa Doc and Baby Doc were in power(along with the dreaded Ton Ton Macoute), no one cared. Haitians got arrested or detained when they showed up on the rafts. As bad as Fidel was, Haiti was also bad. Papa Doc and Baby Doc were basically dictators with a brutal militia and sucked the nation dry. Haitians should have been granted that same status, but they weren't.
A real good Haitian-American friend of mine and colleague from Boston grew up in New England and is doing very well, both parents first generation immigrants from Haiti. I've had frank discussions with him and feel well informed of the internal plight of the Haitian populace. So let's not make this a 7 page thread before you finally verbalize what you've been implying. The question is: why didn't they benefit from that status? Simple, because they were black. There. And this is a new discovery how? More importantly, do you honestly believe this is going to change in a western world of euro-centric preference and composition?
Haitians have always been plagued with living among euro-centric neighbors. They got boycotted by the French after the latter left. Their language and the bourgeoisie's insistence on French cultural influence in Haiti marginalized them economically in a Spanish Caribbean and later an American Caribbean. The US didn't do them any favors during the early 20th century. And to beat that dead horse, they're still black among euro-centric neighbors. There's Haiti in a nutshell. But blaming France in 2010 ain't gonna get them out of their sub-Saharan African existence.
America's racial attitudes towards Haiti will not all of a sudden change overnight because of this disaster. Politically they [Haiti] have taken center stage once again, but I doubt a lasting political immigration policy will be put in place as a result.
Haitians need to stop blaming their white neighbors. This ain't 1804 anymore. The global economy has everybody running for the exits, Haiti is just so behind the race they're irrelevant. Which is why you witness that kind of misery in the year 2010. Their own mulatto and pre-revolution free black families have pillaged and allow outsiders to pillage that country for 200 years, and they got nobody but themselves to blame for this outcome. Is is their fault they're black in a euro-centric Western world? No. Is this reality going to change though? Of course not! So they need to get off the "white world set me up for failure" and seek a change in approach, 'cause self-governance didn't pan out so well for the Haitians. People cry and scream bloody murder when the suggestion is made that a "white nation" should intervene (as they have in the past, many times with no long-term improvement for the local populace) and help Haiti become productive, but the reality is that the "black but free... but starving" approach is not doing jack for them. This is one case where giving up that French insistence in education for socially and economically viable Spanish and North American language and cultural constructs would help them get more traction with the rest of their white and "white-desiring" neighbors.
They can have their creole and french folkloric influence, but brother get on the 21st century bandwagon and start embracing western relevant language education, western expatriate business to bring in jobs, and truly give the haitian people an avenue to emigrate with adequate tools, which could in turn benefit the mother land. Unfortunately this change is not going to happen in my opinion. Is that because of France and the US? Heck no, it is because of the haitian elite. So there's your enemy. You can't do anything about being born black, but you can do something about recognizing that he who has his foot pressing down on your neck happens to share your skin color, counter intuitive as it may be for Haitians or even white-guilt-ridden folks outside Haiti to internalize.
As to the immigration piece, PR has always had a Haitian community of illegal immigrants, via the Dominican Republic. Same racial stratas exist in PR. Ricans consider Dominicans second class caribbean folk due to their larger percentage of black and mulato skin, and Dominicans do the same on Haitians, due to their almost exclusive african black skin composition. The trek from Haiti to PR is a long one, and the Bahamian Atlantic ain't exactly peaceful beaches and coral reefs all the way to Florida either, so the immigration rate will not increase dramatically. So in short I say to the OP, no, you will not see any dramatic increase in haitian immigration to PR outside of the normal enclave of Haitians already in the island.
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