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Old 01-16-2020, 02:39 PM
 
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If someone hadn't mentioned a diamond shape, I never would have seen it. All I saw were fallen branches. It's a common occurrence in the woods. If the cameraman had stepped two paces to the right or left before snapping the photo, the diamond shape wouldn't even show up.

Seems to me if there was a BF he'd have better things to do than play mind games with us humans by rearranging the trees.

UH HUH!

First you say BF doesn't exist but then you say:

If there was a BF . Then you claim to know what a BF Thinks
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Old 01-16-2020, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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UH HUH!

First you say BF doesn't exist but then you say:

If there was a BF . Then you claim to know what a BF Thinks
And you know what BF thinks?
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Old 01-17-2020, 12:11 AM
 
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This sort of "evidence" always reminds me of that scene in Ghostbusters, when they come on the tower of stacked books in the library.

Stantz: Symmetrical book stacking... just like the Philadelphia mass turbulence of 1947.

Venkman: You're right. No human being would stack books like this.


So this kind of stuff in the trees definitely doesn't look like a natural phenomenon. I don't see how wind and rain could do that. Something did it. But is that "something" Bigfoot? No evidence of that. It should be three dozen other things before we arrive at Bigfoot.

If a large hair-covered creature did do something like that, I'm pretty sure there would be more than a few bits of strands in the area. Gather some. Send it for DNA analysis and see what pops. But again, we come back to the remarkable lack of evidence for Bigfoot. Just conjecture.

If you're going to leap to the Bigfoot explanation, you're going to need more than some bent trees for people to take the claim seriously.
Even if someone did get a hair sample...what would you expect the results to be (if it was a Bigfoot)? How do you know what those results would even look like? Maybe it would just show up as being human, or something else?
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Old 01-17-2020, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Even if someone did get a hair sample...what would you expect the results to be (if it was a Bigfoot)? How do you know what those results would even look like? Maybe it would just show up as being human, or something else?
I suspect it would show up as raccoon or bear. If not ... we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Let's get some actual evidence before we argue about what it means.
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Old 01-17-2020, 06:55 AM
 
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Everything thing has a cost. Everyone wants DNA but no one wants to pay.
All these demands. How about someone on this forum; find a place with DNA testing facility., report back with costs, equipment needed, the protocol to follow.
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Old 01-17-2020, 07:06 AM
 
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You guys should look at some of the research Prof. Jeff Meldrum has done. The thing I like about him is he is just a quick to debunk "evidence" as he is to accept it. He has many hair samples that are unidentified, since no DNA could be pulled, because of age or other reasons, but all have similarities to both human and primate hair.
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Old 01-17-2020, 08:26 AM
 
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You guys should look at some of the research Prof. Jeff Meldrum has done. The thing I like about him is he is just a quick to debunk "evidence" as he is to accept it. He has many hair samples that are unidentified, since no DNA could be pulled, because of age or other reasons, but all have similarities to both human and primate hair.
What it proves is we have a mystery. It doesn't prove Bigfoot.

Some of us, not all, need more proof than unidentifiable hairs and speculation.

And as someone else mentioned, the "artists" who think it's funny to fake sightings of BF don't do anybody a favor.
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Old 01-17-2020, 08:41 AM
 
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A body or a sizable chunk is the only things that will prove it.

With new AI programs we just cannot believe anything we see. There is a major fear of fake videos created by AI of candidates in politics; so we are no different.
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Old 01-17-2020, 09:04 AM
 
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A body or a sizable chunk is the only things that will prove it.

With new AI programs we just cannot believe anything we see. There is a major fear of fake videos created by AI of candidates in politics; so we are no different.
Agreed. Some sort of physical evidence is needed. If not a body, then at least a bone, DNA sample, etc.

CGI has gotten very good, and there are some really talented hoaxters out there.
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Old 01-17-2020, 11:20 AM
 
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Everything thing has a cost. Everyone wants DNA but no one wants to pay.
All these demands. How about someone on this forum; find a place with DNA testing facility., report back with costs, equipment needed, the protocol to follow.
It isn't a matter of paying. It is a matter of showing us the results after you get them. Take your Professor Meldrum from Idaho State University. He has a collection of Big Foot plaster cast from supposedly Big Foot tracks. The University that he works for has a genetics department and can do DNA testing. I would bet that somebody in that department would do the testing for free for Dr. Meldrum. Heck, if the genetics department could prove there was a Big Foot, it would mean more money and higher enrolments - they have nothing to loose as long as their test could be verified. If the Professor did have the test done; did he cover up the results? Once you base your 'fame' on a assumption; would you be quick to tell the world you were wrong?

When two renowned universities (Oxford and Lausanne) tested the Yeti samples they ended up with Himalayan brown bear, while other purported yeti samples were actually from the Tibetan blue bear, Asiatic black bear and a domestic dog. I would speculate that many in their genetics departments would have loved to have found proof of the Yeti.
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