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Old 05-12-2014, 04:05 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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But like I said nowhere in the UK regularly gets -15 or -20! Except possibly the top of the highest mountains in Scotland perhaps? Regular -15 or -20 you're talking Siberia or parts of Canada.
Aviemore would get it every few years and they are low towns.

 
Old 05-12-2014, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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My god, where are you getting this rubbish from?! None of those places have temperatures of -15C or below every second winter.
If you're going to state things as facts, at least back it up with evidence. Apart from the winters of 2010, they're very rare indeed.
Cold snap to finally end after record-breaking sub-zero temperatures - Telegraph

1. British_weather_in_january.htm

Buxton recording -13.2 on 16th january 2013

Cold snap to finally end after record-breaking sub-zero temperatures - Telegraph

2. Chesham recording -18.3 February of 2012 and -15 again the same day.

British_weather_in_february.htm

-15.6 recorded in holbeach , lincolnshire in february 2012

3. December of 2010 had 5-10 towns in england recording below -15 like -20 at topcliffe, -19.6 at shawbury ,-19.5 at pershore , -18 in benson.

4. Winter of 2009 again had 5-10 English towns falling below -15 C.
Benson (-18.7 °C)
Woodford -17.6 °C
Yeovilton -16.0 °C
Shap -16 C
Pershore -15.7 °C

5. Winter of 2008 -11 C in Copley County Durham.

6.coldest_days

Winter of 2005 Ravensworth in yorkshire recorded -13.2 C.
Redhill recorded -10 C.

last 10 winters in England there were 4 winters where it went below -15 C , Twice almost touching -15 C (-13.2 in buxton 2005 and -13.2 ravensworth) in other winters and in four other winters touching -10.

http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~ta...ldest_days.htm

Between Winters of 1987-1997

1987 -23.3 Caldecott (Leics.) 13 January and -15 C in warlington
1991 -16.0 Cawood (N Yorks.) 14 February
1997 -15.2 Shepshed (Lincs.) 3 January

With Scotland registering lower minima's couldnt find the values for 7 other winters but Will guess they are pretty much near -15.

So my original statement of -15 every second winter isn't far fetched

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Old 05-13-2014, 07:27 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Cold snap to finally end after record-breaking sub-zero temperatures - Telegraph

1. British_weather_in_january.htm

Buxton recording -13.2 on 16th january 2013

Cold snap to finally end after record-breaking sub-zero temperatures - Telegraph

2. Chesham recording -18.3 February of 2012 and -15 again the same day.

British_weather_in_february.htm

-15.6 recorded in holbeach , lincolnshire in february 2012

3. December of 2010 had 5-10 towns in england recording below -15 like -20 at topcliffe, -19.6 at shawbury ,-19.5 at pershore , -18 in benson.

4. Winter of 2009 again had 5-10 English towns falling below -15 C.
Benson (-18.7 °C)
Woodford -17.6 °C
Yeovilton -16.0 °C
Shap -16 C
Pershore -15.7 °C

5. Winter of 2008 -11 C in Copley County Durham.

6.coldest_days

Winter of 2005 Ravensworth in yorkshire recorded -13.2 C.
Redhill recorded -10 C.

last 10 winters in England there were 4 winters where it went below -15 C , Twice almost touching -15 C (-13.2 in buxton 2005 and -13.2 ravensworth) in other winters and in four other winters touching -10.

coldest_days

Between Winters of 1987-1997

1987 -23.3 Caldecott (Leics.) 13 January and -15 C in warlington
1991 -16.0 Cawood (N Yorks.) 14 February
1997 -15.2 Shepshed (Lincs.) 3 January

With Scotland registering lower minima's couldnt find the values for 7 other winters but Will guess they are pretty much near -15.

So my original statement of -15 every second winter isn't far fetched
So in the last 10 years 4 times at a handful of towns the temperature has dropped to -15 C (and the last 10 years include the coldest winters ever recorded) and you say that this means that 'temperatures in English towns regularly get -15 to -20' - I don't think so, in fact using this data I would suggest that 'temperatures in English towns rarely get to -15 let alone -20', in fact the coldest temperature in England Ive ever experienced is -12 in the 40+ years Ive lived here! Also in England temperatures of 30C+ are FAR more common but you wouldn't say 'temperatures in English towns are often the same as temperatures in Egyptian towns'? You wouldn't say that English towns have a 'Mediterranean' climate?
 
Old 05-13-2014, 11:13 AM
 
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So in the last 10 years 4 times at a handful of towns the temperature has dropped to -15 C (and the last 10 years include the coldest winters ever recorded) and you say that this means that 'temperatures in English towns regularly get -15 to -20' - I don't think so, in fact using this data I would suggest that 'temperatures in English towns rarely get to -15 let alone -20', in fact the coldest temperature in England Ive ever experienced is -12 in the 40+ years Ive lived here! Also in England temperatures of 30C+ are FAR more common but you wouldn't say 'temperatures in English towns are often the same as temperatures in Egyptian towns'? You wouldn't say that English towns have a 'Mediterranean' climate?
Not that I originally said every second winter? I proved that to you by giving examples of last 10 winters where it went below -15 in 4 different winters and almost touched -15 in 3 other winters.

I did not say every winter neither did i say -20 was a regular occurrence. i said during cold snaps england is capable of reaching that figure which it did in 2009 and 2010.
 
Old 05-13-2014, 12:43 PM
 
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Not that I originally said every second winter? I proved that to you by giving examples of last 10 winters where it went below -15 in 4 different winters and almost touched -15 in 3 other winters.

I did not say every winter neither did i say -20 was a regular occurrence. i said during cold snaps england is capable of reaching that figure which it did in 2009 and 2010.
Look at your post 64, you said England 'regularly gets -15 to -20' it doesn't, temperatures that low are rare, England also more often gets 35c + but you wouldn't say 'England regularly gets 35c' they're both the extreme ends of the scale at in specific parts of the country, I've never experienced -15 or -20 anywhere I've ever been in England (I remember a nighttime low of -12 making the news once) and I've lived here my whole life.
 
Old 05-13-2014, 01:17 PM
 
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Look at your post 64, you said England 'regularly gets -15 to -20' it doesn't, temperatures that low are rare, England also more often gets 35c + but you wouldn't say 'England regularly gets 35c' they're both the extreme ends of the scale at in specific parts of the country, I've never experienced -15 or -20 anywhere I've ever been in England (I remember a nighttime low of -12 making the news once) and I've lived here my whole life.
England gets below -15C more often than it gets above 35C. It last got above 35C in 2006, and that was the first time since 2003, whereas -15 has been achieved a few winters recently. -15C is not common, but it occurs occasionally in some of the frost hollows. Just because you have not experienced it, doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
 
Old 05-13-2014, 01:40 PM
 
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England gets below -15C more often than it gets above 35C. It last got above 35C in 2006, and that was the first time since 2003, whereas -15 has been achieved a few winters recently. -15C is not common, but it occurs occasionally in some of the frost hollows. Just because you have not experienced it, doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
Where did I say it never happens? Do you agree with Raheem then? Do you think English towns regularly get to -15 to -20? 35 degrees is certainly more common than -15 where I live.
 
Old 05-13-2014, 04:07 PM
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Has to be Aviemore.

They have pretty good skiing there up in the Cairngorms
 
Old 05-14-2014, 04:09 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Where did I say it never happens? Do you agree with Raheem then? Do you think English towns regularly get to -15 to -20? 35 degrees is certainly more common than -15 where I live.
No, I don't, but -15C seems to occur with more frequency than 35C nationally.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 04:50 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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-15c

Occurs maybe once every 15 years.

35c NEVER.
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