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Originally Posted by easthome
'Cooler' ancestry! Cooler! Bloody hell I didn't realise it was so 'un-cool' to be English! Just out of curiosity why is it much 'cooler' to say you have German ancestors exactly??
You're not an American. Don't comment on issues that you have no experience with.
Location: Northern Ireland and temporarily England
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Originally Posted by blindstealer
Americans have a general dislike for the English.
English ancestry has a tendency to be seen as bland and boring.
There was a thread here(I think) with a question that basicly went "Which ethnic group has influenced the US the most?".... Needless to say, the English wasn't even mentioned. Apparantley even the Italians and Poles and whatnot have had a larger impact on American culture than the English.
He's not even an American (I don't think he's even visited) ignore him. He has some cheek on him to think that he can come into this discussion about American ancestry and think that he has the experience to bluntly disregard someone's opinion like that.
From experience people in the South East of England have terrible, terrible knowledge about Northern Ireland so how are they going to cope with a discussion on American ancestry?
When my ancestors were in the British Isles, they were the dominant economic and military in the world. They emigrated to the USA and now the USA is 6 times the GDP of the UK and is the dominant economic, military and cultural power in the world. I see why my ancestors left and very glad they did.
Sorry, TT; the USA hasn't been the dominant economic or military power since last September (2014). The Chinese are #1 financially, and the Russians are #1 militarily. I've no idea where you get the 'culturally superior' data, but I sincerely doubt that many non-American people would agree with you.
I'm not going to take issue with you, because I'm not clear what point exactly you're trying to make. Seems like you're trying to assert the "one drop rule" to English heritage, which is really really bad politics, and I won't touch that with a barge pole.
Suffice to say, I struggle with your assertion that the 6-7% who identify as "American" is a large proportion, particularly in the context that they are believed to be largely a mixed race polyglot, English/Creole Asian/French etc.
Uh, no. Look at the 2000 map of ancestries by county, for example. "American" ancestry is most commonly found in the South. It is not the same as African ancestry, for example, which is a shown separately. And it certainly isn't Asian. It is the dominant ancestry in Southern Appalachia, for example, so the vast majority of people who identified as "American" in the US Census are white Americans whose ancestors have been in the country for a very long time, and ultimately largely descended from British stock.
The UK and US goverments are obviously close allies.
But if we are gonna generealize a bit here(there are always exceptions offcourse) then yes... Americans do dislike the English. The English are often blissfully unaware of this and some never know the contempt Americans have for them and anything English.
The UK and US goverments are obviously close allies.
But if we are gonna generealize a bit here(there are always exceptions offcourse) then yes... Americans do dislike the English. The English are often blissfully unaware of this and some never know the contempt Americans have for them and anything English.
Great Britain is Americans' 2nd most highly favored country (after Canada).* Not really the same as saying England is equally preferred, since obviously the UK is comprised of more than just England. However, it's quite a stretch to say Americans generally dislike the English. Most still believe in the American-centric view of the Revolutionary War, which is basically that the English were bad and the "patriots" were good (a view I disagree with, BTW). Nevertheless, I'd say Americans have a much different opinion of modern Englanders. Some strong anti-English sentiments do exist, most notably, perhaps, among some Irish-Americans, who have notoriously donated to the IRA.
Not news to me. I know a few Americans who can't stand the English, usually people with minority ancestries like Italian.
You are gullible if you think all Americans have a liking to England.
I never said that I thought that all Americans have a liking for England.
I disagreed with the comment, which I highlighted, that Americans have a general dislike for the English.
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