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The same with the French, stick 32% on their wine and tax their other goods, the same applies to the rest of the EU. Also prevent the EU from accesing the City of London.
Wiill be more than happy not to negotiate at all to be honest and to just revert to WTO Rules.
I believe that somebody mentioned...the idea of importing wine from Chile.
As far as trade surpluses with Germany. You seem to like what we are selling and you will keep on buying it regardless of whatever taxes you slap on german products because quite obviously they are better than yours. You want a trade war, go right ahead, you will loose. This time around there will be no allies to save you skins. I am sorry, I just could not resist this one. lol
Here is one more jab. You want to take on 27 countries, give me a break. To succeed you would need a crazy Hitler type of leader "Führer", that is. For us those days are long gone. Instead of outshooting we are now outselling everybody.
Oh how VERY European of you! Once again another fine example of European prejudice and one reason why Brexit has happened in the first place, you will find the British very fair when it comes to produce, its not the British that scoff at German food, its not the British that scoff at Spanish wine, its not the British that scoff at Italian cars, our Euro 'friends' however always have and always will scoff at ANYTHING British, this 'we are better than you' attitude is one of the main reasons why we have had enough and if you think that slapping a tax on your cars is not going to make a difference to the cars the British buy then you are a fool because unlike our German 'freinds' we will not scoff at a Japanese car or a car from Singapore, we will simply buy those instead. Stop being so bloody obsessed with the British, we don't want to be part of Europe, we don't want to be in the EU, we don't feel particularly European so what? Get over it, or better still go and bug the Norwegians because they are no different.
Oh how VERY European of you! Once again another fine example of European prejudice and one reason why Brexit has happened in the first place, you will find the British very fair when it comes to produce, its not the British that scoff at German food, its not the British that scoff at Spanish wine, its not the British that scoff at Italian cars, our Euro 'friends' however always have and always will scoff at ANYTHING British, this 'we are better than you' attitude is one of the main reasons why we have had enough and if you think that slapping a tax on your cars is not going to make a difference to the cars the British buy then you are a fool because unlike our German 'freinds' we will not scoff at a Japanese car or a car from Singapore, we will simply buy those instead. Stop being so bloody obsessed with the British, we don't want to be part of Europe, we don't want to be in the EU, we don't feel particularly European so what? Get over it, or better still go and bug the Norwegians because they are no different.
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Very speculative. No Pound, no BREXIT, no years of negotiations, no negative impact on trade, etc. etc. etc.
All of us can play what if?
You are doing a lot of the speculating yourself RB.
The only real options are some form of trade agreement in relation to the EU, an organisation that has a massive trade surples with the UK or no trade agreement which means WTO Rules and Tariffs. It's really as simple as that, and either way I am not bothered.
You see RB under WTO Rules we can impose our own Tariffs up to the WTO Maximum allowed, however we can also lower tariffs, or keep them at zero if the EU wishes to carry on trading at a surplus.
So free trade with the EU would still be possible under WTO Rules and that includes trade in services as well as goods, and this would allow free access to the single market. It would also allow EU Countries continued free access to one of it's most profitable markets in Europe, with which they have a substantial suplus with and allow EU Companies to have continued access to the City of London, so it would be a win win situation.
The alternative would be tit for tat raising of tariffs to the maximum level allowed under WTO Rules, that would lead to many German Manufactured goods becoming uncompetitive when compared to say Far East goods (which could be zero tariffed), whilst French wine could have a 32% Tariiff applied against other countries importing their wines in to Britain under zero level tariffs and this could apply to a whole raft of other EU goods, especially if the UK manages to establish better trading agreements with nations outside of the EU or formulates new global trading agreements and partnerships meaning zero tariff trading.
Thats how it works RB and the ball now in the EU Court, and it's the EU who have the large trading surplus.
You are doing a lot of the speculating yourself RB.
The only real options are some form of trade agreement in relation to the EU, an organisation that has a massive trade surples with the UK or no trade agreement which means WTO Rules and Tariffs. It's really as simple as that, and either way I am not bothered.
You see RB under WTO Rules we can impose our own Tariffs up to the WTO Maximum allowed, however we can also lower tariffs, or keep them at zero if the EU wishes to carry on trading at a surplus.
So free trade with the EU would still be possible under WTO Rules and that includes trade in services as well as goods, and this would allow free access to the single market. It would also allow EU Countries continued free access to one of it's most profitable markets in Europe, with which they have a substantial suplus with and allow EU Companies to have continued access to the City of London, so it would be a win win situation.
The alternative would be tit for tat raising of tariffs to the maximum level allowed under WTO Rules, that would lead to many German Manufactured goods becoming uncompetitive when compared to say Far East goods (which could be zero tariffed), whilst French wine could have a 32% Tariiff applied against other countries importing their wines in to Britain under zero level tariffs and this could apply to a whole raft of other EU goods, especially if the UK manages to establish better trading agreements with nations outside of the EU or formulates new global trading agreements and partnerships meaning zero tariff trading.
Thats how it works RB and the ball now in the EU Court, and it's the EU who have the large trading surplus.
All I keep reading from across the channel is that BREXIT is the best thing since sliced bread. The EU will pay dearly for not cowering and going along with UK demands. It goes on and on. Guess what, I and the majority of my European brethren do not care. Just get on with it and stop talking it to death. Once Theresa has taken the first step, if and whenever that will be, we can discuss it.
In the meantime, tell eastie to stop getting his knickers in a twist. How is your weather by the by. Getting a bit cold around here.
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All I keep reading from across the channel is that BREXIT is the best thing since sliced bread. The EU will pay dearly for not cowering and going along with UK demands. It goes on and on. Guess what, I and the majority of my European brethren do not care. Just get on with it and stop talking it to death. Once Theresa has taken the first step, if and whenever that will be, we can discuss it.
In the meantime, tell eastie to stop getting his knickers in a twist. How is your weather by the by. Getting a bit cold around here.
Cheerio for now.
I would have thought if you didn't care you wouldn't be constantly posting against Brexit.
We didn't like a lot of what the EU stood for as a political union, however the WTO Rules allow some flexibility in relation to trade tariffs, so zero tariffs could still apply if the EU want to continue the current trading arrangement and free trade is in the EU's own interest.
It also should be noted that the UK's relationship with Europe runs far deeper than merely trade, and includes areas such as defence, intelligence, security and a host of other areas, which makes it even more important that the EU and UK stay on good terms, and it should be noted that while we will be leaving the EU we will not be leaving Europe.
I would have thought if you didn't care you wouldn't be constantly posting against Brexit.
We didn't like a lot of what the EU stood for as a political union, however the WTO Rules allow some flexibility in relation to trade tariffs, so zero tariffs could still apply if the EU want to continue the current trading arrangement and free trade is in the EU's own interest.
It also should be noted that the UK's relationship with Europe runs far deeper than merely trade, and includes areas such as defence, intelligence, security and a host of other areas, which makes it even more important that the EU and UK stay on good terms, and it should be noted that while we will be leaving the EU we will not be leaving Europe.
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Good!
Indeed.
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