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Old 03-09-2017, 03:01 PM
 
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Unlikely!

And if the EU did break up into little pieces the world would be an even more dangerous place than it is currently.
Unlikely since NATO, the true defender of European peace since the end of WWII, would still be there to maintain stability, as always...
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Old 03-09-2017, 03:08 PM
 
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Unlikely since NATO, the true defender of European peace since the end of WWII, would still be there to maintain stability, as always...
Ah yes, NATO. Just like the UN, an anachronism of a post Cold-War era; truculent when issues are black and white, and dictated to by the own superpower left from that particular era. But ask it to step outside the box with a difficult challenge and it collapses into a pile of confusion and inconsistency.

How that organisation will bring social & economic benefit for all I really have no idea!
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Old 03-09-2017, 03:14 PM
 
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Ah yes, NATO. Just like the UN, an anachronism of a post Cold-War era; truculent when issues are black and white, and dictated to by the own superpower left from that particular era. But ask it to step outside the box with a difficult challenge and it collapses into a pile of confusion and inconsistency.

How that organisation will bring social & economic benefit for all I really have no idea!
The organisation has brought almost all of Europe together for a single purpose. It guarantees peace, saves us significant money on our military budget, and best of all, it doesn't demand an enormous handover of our political powers and national sovereignty as a condition of joining. Wonderful!
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Old 03-09-2017, 03:17 PM
 
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Unless something radically changes I would hope the UK will never consider trying to get back into the EU again (once they have finally left), even if they could.
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Old 03-09-2017, 03:19 PM
 
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The organisation has brought almost all of Europe together for a single purpose. It guarantees peace, saves us significant money on our military budget, and best of all, it doesn't demand an enormous handover of our political powers and national sovereignty as a condition of joining. Wonderful!
Yes, if only things were that simple.


And on that note, I'm off to bed.

Good night all
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Old 03-09-2017, 03:21 PM
 
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Unless something radically changes I would hope the UK will never consider trying to get back into the EU again (once they have finally left), even if they could.
Unfortunately the EU is only heading in one direction once the UK leaves, further integration. Even most Remain supporters were against further integration, yet they naively held on to the far-fetched notion that we could significantly change the EU from within.
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Old 03-09-2017, 03:39 PM
 
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And I would expect the EU to tighten up their membership rules, making it very difficult for any other country to follow the UK's example of leaving. That might be a deterrent to rejoining.


But ten years from now, there will be people who were too young to vote in the referendum running their own businesses, and maybe even elected as Members of Parliament.


I think this is going to run and run for many years to come.
Relax Berenice, a referendum is not law and article 50 has not been filed yet. Who knows if it ever will be. Even if and when it will take at least 2 or perhaps even ten years to negotiate a civilized and mutually beneficial separation.

I know there are some people (especially in this forum) all itching to get out of the EU. They are very shortsighted people who either don't care or understand the consequences.

Theresa May has put herself or has been put into a very unenviable position. She would like to get out of it but does not know how. In my opinion, if the UK should somehow manage to leave the EU, let her go never to come back. Who needs trouble makers and cherry pickers. The UK net contribution to the EU can easily be covered by Germany and the other countries.

Cheers.
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Old 03-09-2017, 03:42 PM
 
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^^^ Considering the fact that you don't care if the UK leaves, you certainly spend a lot of time talking about the subject. You're completely obsessed

First they said we wouldn't have a referendum, then they said we wouldn't vote to leave, now they're saying we won't actually leave, and when we do leave you'll be saying that we'll rejoin. We are leaving, and are prepared to hold our government to account if they don't make this happen. Although stick with your delusional pipe dream if it makes you feel good. Good look with covering those lost financial contributions :

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Old 03-09-2017, 05:50 PM
 
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The other aspect would be the conditions accompanying a new membership application. Having to adopt the Euro and Schengen might be wholly unacceptable for most people in the UK.
And why would that be?
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Old 03-09-2017, 05:52 PM
 
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Unlikely!

And if the EU did break up into little pieces the world would be an even more dangerous place than it is currently.
Right on Zola!
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