UK economic troubles have nothing to do with Brexit (living, dangerous)

[Winterfall8324]

UK economic growth weakest in over five years

The news looks like it has an obvious answer, but that is not so.

Britain hasn't even left the EU yet and still their poverty is sky high (and rising), and their debt is rising (fast).

Firstly, since the 80s, the UK has become obsessed with economic elitism focusing on the flourishing economy London while ignoring fundamentals. Rather than advancing an industrialized economy and pursue agriculture reform to feed the country leaders in the UK have focused on service industry management while also wealth inequalities and rewarding takers (bankers) rather than producers (blue-collar workers).

Now debt is rising, their are no fundamental strengths to the UK as service sector finance isn't anything real that can be maintained through economic turmoil and soon the UK will become the poor man of Europe unless they do socialist working class reforms (not the capitalist reforms like in Denmark, but industrial reforms as seen in Basque country Spain).

[jonesg]

Originally Posted by Winterfall8324

UK economic growth weakest in over five years

The news looks like it has an obvious answer, but that is not so.

Britain hasn't even left the EU yet and still their poverty is sky high (and rising), and their debt is rising (fast).

Firstly, since the 80s, the UK has become obsessed with economic elitism focusing on the flourishing economy London while ignoring fundamentals. Rather than advancing an industrialized economy and pursue agriculture reform to feed the country leaders in the UK have focused on service industry management while also wealth inequalities and rewarding takers (bankers) rather than producers (blue-collar workers).

Now debt is rising, their are no fundamental strengths to the UK as service sector finance isn't anything real that can be maintained through economic turmoil and soon the UK will become the poor man of Europe unless they do socialist working class reforms (not the capitalist reforms like in Denmark, but industrial reforms as seen in Basque country Spain).

More socialism, maybe they'll turn into venezuala. Or greece.

[English Dave]

Originally Posted by jonesg

More socialism, maybe they'll turn into venezuala. Or greece.

We've had financial troubles in all my living memory, and that goes back a loooooooong way. We're still here.

I can promise you, England is nothing like Greece. I know, I visit Greece, and they're up **** creek.......

I hate to tell you, but we have a Conservative government. No socialists among them.

Socialism........ boy, it's a long time since you left England huh?

[Winterfall8324]

Originally Posted by jonesg

More socialism, maybe they'll turn into venezuala. Or greece.

Venezuela is state run capitalism.

Socialism is handing more economic and political power to those who produce the most.

UK businesses should follow the corporate model as set by Mondragon corporation.

[Dangerous-Boy]

China raped the english rust belt.

EU should have poured money into the rust belt like they did with scotland and northern ireland to keep working class englishmen placated.

They should have compromised on the migration. THe UK is an island afterall.

In turn, the UK should be leading and angolizing the EU except for french and italian food. Spanish and portugease food is like bland italian food.

British policy should have been make the EU england.

[easthome]

Originally Posted by English Dave

We've had financial troubles in all my living memory, and that goes back a loooooooong way. We're still here.

I can promise you, England is nothing like Greece. I know, I visit Greece, and they're up **** creek.......

I hate to tell you, but we have a Conservative government. No socialists among them.

Socialism........ boy, it's a long time since you left England huh?

If Jonesg really is/was English then I am Princess Diana!

[English Dave]

Originally Posted by easthome

If Jonesg really is/was English then I am Princess Diana!

Yeah I know........ just playing along with him........ He must have left about 50 years ago, the way he goes on about 'socialism.' Last person I heard talking that way was Harold Wilson........

[irish_bob]

Originally Posted by Dangerous-Boy

China raped the english rust belt.

EU should have poured money into the rust belt like they did with scotland and northern ireland to keep working class englishmen placated.

They should have compromised on the migration. THe UK is an island afterall.

In turn, the UK should be leading and angolizing the EU except for french and italian food. Spanish and portugease food is like bland italian food.

British policy should have been make the EU england.

oh please , thatcher dismantled the north of englands heavy industry fifteen years before china began to become any kind of real force

i dont know if the uk should have preserved traditional industry like germany did but they put all there eggs in the city of london for the most part

[Dangerous-Boy]

Originally Posted by irish_bob

oh please , thatcher dismantled the north of englands heavy industry fifteen years before china began to become any kind of real force

i dont know if the uk should have preserved traditional industry like germany did but they put all there eggs in the city of london for the most part

that's because deng xiaoping said to lay low and don't assume a position of leadership.