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Its very brave of you to show us the gory truth of how totally sprawled out the Northeast is. Reckless and Irresponsible.
Los Angeles and San Francisco, America's 2 most densely populated urban areas, take up less physical land than that monstrous mess in the Northeast. In other words, LA and SF are less sprawled out.
I admire your courage to finally embrace the truth.
Thank you dear, sweet Huge Foodie 215.
Except two of those places are megacities and one clearly isn't. Take a guess which one it is.
One of those places is CLEARLY not as urban as the others.
Again, this thread is NOT about the Northeast. It's about LA and SF, and SF does NOT compare to LA.
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If SF outside of downtown looks like a "small town" to you then so should everywhere else outside of their downtowns in the country not named Manhattan.
You ever been to Chicago? Philadelphia? Yeah, exactly. Hell, LA's urbanity extends further in a way that SF can't even ever dream of catching.
In any event, I really appreciate all the attention you draw to the nations' 1st and 2nd most densely populated urban areas, Los Angeles and San Francisco.
Its very brave of you to show us the gory truth of how totally sprawled out the Northeast is. Reckless and Irresponsible.
Los Angeles and San Francisco, America's 2 most densely populated urban areas, take up less physical land than that monstrous mess in the Northeast. In other words, LA and SF are less sprawled out.
I admire your courage to finally embrace the truth.
Thank you dear, sweet Huge Foodie 215.
I agree, once you get outside the cities of the Northeast is as sprawl and anywhere else in the country. So many western and sunbelt cities get hating on CD for having too much sprawl, when in reality the Northeast is just as sprawl.
Its amazing how Los Angeles squeezes 12 Million people into 1,700 square miles, meanwhile Boston and Philadelphia both sprawl over larger areas both closer to 2,000 sq miles than LA.
I don't think that SF compares well to Manhattan AT ALL. Hell, it barely beats out the Loop in Chicago or Center City, Philadelphia. The Wilshire corridor from Santa Monica to Downtown LA is more impressive IMO because that's nearly 10 miles of uninterrupted urbanity, while outside of DTSF, it feels like a small town.
Yeah, I mean, I feel that Los Angeles gets not enough love on CD while the Bay Area gets way too much love, despite LA being an actual West Coast megacity and the Bay Area being barely more populated than DFW (and in terms of MSA, BARELY more populated than Riverside MSA)
I don't think that SF compares well to Manhattan AT ALL. Hell, it barely beats out the Loop in Chicago or Center City, Philadelphia. The Wilshire corridor from Santa Monica to Downtown LA is more impressive IMO because that's nearly 10 miles of uninterrupted urbanity, while outside of DTSF, it feels like a small town.
Excellent you admit SF beats out the Loop in Chicago and Center City Philly.....duh!! And the Wilshire corridor is even better...
Its amazing how Los Angeles squeezes 12 Million people into 1,700 square miles, meanwhile Boston and Philadelphia both sprawl over larger areas both closer to 2,000 sq miles than LA.
How sad.
Even that staggering number sells it a little short, I think. The Riverside/San Bernardino UA is right next door--most everyone considers it part of the L.A. urban footprint. I don't have the boundaries of the two UAs but combined they total 2280 sq miles (14.08 million people). The combined density 6175 p/psm.
Btw, San Francisco and San Jose's UA's (The Bay Area): 809.6 combined sq miles, population 4.94 million, 6,109 p/psm. For comparison sake, Philly's UA is home to 5.5 million people but sprawls over 1981 sq miles. The density is less than half that of The SF Bay Area.
Last edited by RaymondChandlerLives; 04-20-2012 at 10:04 PM..
Man, did the smackdown train ever roll into this thread...
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Btw, San Francisco and San Jose's UA's (The Bay Area): 809.6 combined sq miles, population 4.94 million, 6,109 p/psm. For comparison sake, Philly's UA is home to 5.5 million people but sprawls over 1981 sq miles. The density is less than half that of The SF Bay Area.
And it must be noted that SF/SJ/Oak do not benefit from being 100 miles from the most populous city in America in one direction, and the capital of America in the other, and connected - as we are so often reminded - by basically uninterupted sprawl between the two.
SF is nearly 400 miles from the #2 city in America; most of that distance is farmland or hills; and, after you get past Sacramento (which the Bay Area overshadows in prominence, economy, etc, and is separated from largely by farmland), you don't hit another major MSA till Portland, nearly 600 miles away.
Even that staggering number sells it a little short, I think. The Riverside/San Bernardino UA is right next door--most everyone considers it part of the L.A. urban footprint. I don't have the boundaries of the two UAs but combined they total 2280 sq miles (14.08 million people). The combined density 6175 p/psm.
Btw, San Francisco and San Jose's UA's (The Bay Area): 809.6 combined sq miles, population 4.94 million, 6,109 p/psm. For comparison sake, Philly's UA is home to 5.5 million people but sprawls over 1981 sq miles. The density is less than half that of The SF Bay Area.
The Philly urban area is sort of pigeonholed in that it should be combined with the Trenton urban area as it has continuous urban density with Trenton, NJ. That would make the density level go up for the Philly urban area. But either way you look at it the LA urban area does have a higher density p/psm than the Philadelphia area in general.
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